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OverpAId – Fire your CEO. Hire the future

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Re: OverpAId – Fire your CEO. Hire the future

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Post by hoppp »

bratao wrote: post #54

I know this is a common trope here, and yeah, plenty of MBA-type CEOs are trash. But speaking as a founder/CEO of a small company, the quality gap between an average hire and top talent at the director level is night and day. Proven talent comes with a massive price tag, but it's almost always worth it. The times I regretted going with the 2nd or 3rd place candidate because they were cheaper ended up setting us back…

Steve Jobs was a founder, not your average CEO hire. He built the company from scratch.

Re: OverpAId – Fire your CEO. Hire the future

#93

Post by blackqueeriroh »

inanutshellus wrote: post #12
jdw64 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I do think you can't enjoy life if you don't work. Pain is the seasoning of life. Of course, my life is full of seasoning and nothing else. Both pain and pleasure are necessary. It's just that there's only pain right now, which is the problem. If AI could just handle the economic activities for me so I could have a little bit of 'pleasure,' that would be great. I just want to do the programming I actually enjoy

Oof. Pain may well be the "seasoning of life" but work is not pain. Work is the thing that helps one lift society up. We're all connected beings and one's occupation is how we each contribute to that society. The idea that it's something we suffer through in order to eat is a crummy reversal of the idea of having purpose . It doesn't matter if one is selling toilets or scrubbing them, each of us is still keeping civi…

“Work” is not the same as “job that your ability to live is dependent on.”

I can do a lot of work and contribute to society without having a job. In fact, that’s how I think it should be for everyone.

No jobs. Universal income. People doing things they love.

Re: OverpAId – Fire your CEO. Hire the future

#94

Post by bluGill »

bawana wrote: post #36

I disagree with the monetization model. There should be 1 month free trial. If the companiy's performance metrics (stock price?) improve, the CEO should pay for it and get fired.

A company should be judged on longer term metrics than one month. Often the best action is to take a loss for several months while you set the company up for long term success. Often is not always of course. If you take over at a soap manufacture there is unlikely to be much investment that would make a change in the companies performance - soap is a well understood product that has been around for many years and the processes to make it have been optimized for years (I'm sure there is room for improvement, but many will not pay off.)

Re: OverpAId – Fire your CEO. Hire the future

#95

Post by cyclopeanutopia »

bratao wrote: post #54

I know this is a common trope here, and yeah, plenty of MBA-type CEOs are trash. But speaking as a founder/CEO of a small company, the quality gap between an average hire and top talent at the director level is night and day. Proven talent comes with a massive price tag, but it's almost always worth it. The times I regretted going with the 2nd or 3rd place candidate because they were cheaper ended up setting us back…

"Top talent" - I'm curious, do you really believe this is a normal / proper / desirable way of talking about other people?

Re: OverpAId – Fire your CEO. Hire the future

#96

Post by _AzMoo »

phoghed wrote: post #86
_AzMoo wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A CEO's job isn't the one that everybody here apparently thinks it is. A CEO's job is networking, marketing and PR. They get paid the way they do because they can get into the rooms they need to get into to build the inter-business relationships they need to build.

So you’re saying that what makes them able to be a CEO is that they became a CEO

That's right. Obviously they need to build a network before they become a CEO, but that's what Ivy League's, family connections, and exclusive private schools are for.

Re: OverpAId – Fire your CEO. Hire the future

#97

Post by jdw64 »

inanutshellus wrote: post #12
jdw64 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I do think you can't enjoy life if you don't work. Pain is the seasoning of life. Of course, my life is full of seasoning and nothing else. Both pain and pleasure are necessary. It's just that there's only pain right now, which is the problem. If AI could just handle the economic activities for me so I could have a little bit of 'pleasure,' that would be great. I just want to do the programming I actually enjoy

Oof. Pain may well be the "seasoning of life" but work is not pain. Work is the thing that helps one lift society up. We're all connected beings and one's occupation is how we each contribute to that society. The idea that it's something we suffer through in order to eat is a crummy reversal of the idea of having purpose . It doesn't matter if one is selling toilets or scrubbing them, each of us is still keeping civi…

Hmm, I've also worked with professors (from top Korean universities). them hiring me and me getting a degree from them are different things.

Well, I don't believe that just because you work hard, you'll always succeed. Most people just see me as a subordinate worker. Of course, if you come from a wealthy family, it's probably different.

Re: OverpAId – Fire your CEO. Hire the future

#98

Post by jedberg »

hoppp wrote: post #91
bratao wrote: post #54

I know this is a common trope here, and yeah, plenty of MBA-type CEOs are trash. But speaking as a founder/CEO of a small company, the quality gap between an average hire and top talent at the director level is night and day. Proven talent comes with a massive price tag, but it's almost always worth it. The times I regretted going with the 2nd or 3rd place candidate because they were cheaper ended up setting us back…

Steve Jobs was a founder, not your average CEO hire. He built the company from scratch.

Steve Jobs was hired as the CEO of Apple when the company was 20 years old. He was never CEO before that.

Re: OverpAId – Fire your CEO. Hire the future

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Post by ImHereToVote »

cyclopeanutopia wrote: post #95
bratao wrote: post #54

I know this is a common trope here, and yeah, plenty of MBA-type CEOs are trash. But speaking as a founder/CEO of a small company, the quality gap between an average hire and top talent at the director level is night and day. Proven talent comes with a massive price tag, but it's almost always worth it. The times I regretted going with the 2nd or 3rd place candidate because they were cheaper ended up setting us back…

"Top talent" - I'm curious, do you really believe this is a normal / proper / desirable way of talking about other people?

I'm not OP but I think it is both normal, proper, and desirable.

Re: OverpAId – Fire your CEO. Hire the future

#100

Post by mikert89 »

bluGill wrote: post #88
mikert89 wrote: post #72

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No I think for the last 10-15 years, ivy types could legitimately just raise series A type money, run a company like shit, but capital was a moat and so ended up as CEOs. This is actually how the world works

You are confusing CEO pay with CEO ability. There is plenty of examples of companies doing poorly until a new CEO comes in, and others of a company doing well until the CEO retires and a replacement comes in. Ivy types have a poor history of figuring out which is which in advance though.

no its not like that, these people get plopped into positions of power, and alot of time theres no good way to assess their performance
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