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Roblox Officially Supports GrapheneOS

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Re: Roblox Officially Supports GrapheneOS

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ROM is to android what distro is to Linux. The term is used correctly here. An android ROM could refer to the stock OS, GrapheneOS, LineageOS, Pixel Experience, etc.

With immutable distros (see bootc or systemd-sysupgrade) the operating system itself is also only just a read only file system. Does that count as ROM too?

it's a term used for historical reasons, nobody is claiming it's accurately describing some technical property

Re: Roblox Officially Supports GrapheneOS

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With immutable distros (see bootc or systemd-sysupgrade) the operating system itself is also only just a read only file system. Does that count as ROM too?

it's a term used for historical reasons, nobody is claiming it's accurately describing some technical property

Might as well just use the term "Android distr(o|ibution)" whenever talking about it. I think its also more self-explanatory vs "Android ROM" if you never heard of them before.

Re: Roblox Officially Supports GrapheneOS

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This isn't true. Roblox never had and does not have a kernel anti-cheat.

My mistake, I just assumed their Byfron anti-cheat is kernel level because that's the most common reason why anticheats take issue with Wine. If their anti-cheat operates entirely in usermode, then their decision to block Wine is even more baffling to me.

It is not kernel level, they use a number of pretty fancy user mode tricks to prevent people messing with the game.

They encrypt every page and register an exception handler that decrypts the page when a fault is reached to keep memory secure. They do cache timing checks to see if a page was recently in the working set outside of the expected control flow and will flag you if you fail the check too many times because it indicates tampering.

Re: Roblox Officially Supports GrapheneOS

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My understanding was that you have to install google messages to get RCS to work and on google's end it gets finicky about device ids. I read a couple blogs where people found RCS to be really unstable on GrapheneOS even with a couple workarounds. If I'm going to have to install a bunch of google products onto my phone anyways, I don't buy the benefits as much. I also had a recent experience being shaken down by a bo…

Basically all of Graphene's RCS issues have been fixed[0]. Additionally, your stance seems somewhat unusual - GrapheneOS isn't only meant to be used by people that have "something to hide". As for explaining it to border guard - it's just Android - if you're unlocking your phone for them anyway, they definitely shouldn't care about what flavor of Android you're running, whether it's LineageOS, ColorOS, GrapheneOS, et…

There is little difference these days between the government spying on you and your own device spying on you. The difference is one only cares if you do something wrong, the other one will steal pilfer and sell your data despite already purchasing a product.

Re: Roblox Officially Supports GrapheneOS

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Makes sense for them to support this given their scale. I wouldn't be surprised if GrapheneOS secures another big Android OEM vendor (after Motorola Mobility) and the user base of the OS quickly grows from its current 400k+ to millions.

> after Motorola Mobility Does anyone know anymore on that front? For months, I've regularly looked up whether there were any news, only to find nothing besides the original announcement. No ETA, no upcoming devices to be supported, heck, on the Graphene side, their own webpages make nary a mention. Would buy a Razr 70 Ultra + Clicks the second that is confirmed, but for something that was so publicly announced month…

They're too busy pushing malware on the rest of their lineup in system updates left, right, and center.

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Re: Roblox Officially Supports GrapheneOS

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Don't get too excited, this still goes against the basic freedom to own the devices you've paid for.

Remote attestation is still there and only official builds of GrapheneOS are supported. While this is marginally better than being tied to a build from an advertising company, you're still out of luck if you want to build the OS yourself.

Re: Roblox Officially Supports GrapheneOS

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Makes sense for them to support this given their scale. I wouldn't be surprised if GrapheneOS secures another big Android OEM vendor (after Motorola Mobility) and the user base of the OS quickly grows from its current 400k+ to millions.

If it become to big, it will go the same way as CyanogenMod, Google will send some people to pressure the manufacturers to drop them off

Google is the only one supporting them currently.

Re: Roblox Officially Supports GrapheneOS

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If it become to big, it will go the same way as CyanogenMod, Google will send some people to pressure the manufacturers to drop them off

Google is the only one supporting them currently.

Well, also expect the next Pixel bootloader to be locked out if they become too big.

Re: Roblox Officially Supports GrapheneOS

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This is a really interesting signal tbh. While it sounds like it already works on GrapheneOS having a corporation come out and say they won't go out of their way to break it is quite unusual.

It requires a positive action from the application developer to include GrapheneOS's keys as well as Google's keys. So this is a deliberate positive step, rather than a default.

Only if they are using hardware key attestation. From what I've read elsewhere it looks like it was never broken so maybe they never went that far before.

Re: Roblox Officially Supports GrapheneOS

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't true. Roblox never had and does not have a kernel anti-cheat.

My mistake, I just assumed their Byfron anti-cheat is kernel level because that's the most common reason why anticheats take issue with Wine. If their anti-cheat operates entirely in usermode, then their decision to block Wine is even more baffling to me.

Wine doesn't provide every userspace facility Windows does.
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