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Re: Never Enough

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Post by dalvasorsali »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #9

Pure rage bait. Strong claims require strong evidence - which isn't offered here. And besides, maybe the person running dates by Claude just does that for a bit of fun as a hobby. People have weird hobbies! Better not to yuck someone's yum. Maybe alternatively it's that person's way of experimenting with these new tools to explore what they can do. Maybe that person will discover something - for example, ebay was a t…

> Strong claims require strong evidence

I wish more people viewed things this way.

Feels like a lot of the public discourse now is "strong claims, vibes as evidence".

Re: Never Enough

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Post by infecto »

kubb wrote: post #4
amarcheschi wrote: post #3

>The other story covers a founder who has Claude review her first dates and tell her whether she was engaging and empathetic enough, thanks to recording every single one of them. Two people meet and afterwards, rather than talk to the other person or trust her own judgment, one of them sits alone with a machine and asks how well she performed. Holy insanity

Dating in the Silicon Valley must be hell.

Nothing new. It was not great 10+ years ago. I always found NYC to be a much more fun city in that regard. The Bay Area folks always had nothing better to talk about except work.

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Post by m0llusk »

Really sad that the latest tech debacle gets the Silicon Valley label while so much interesting and constructive work plods along in relative dark.

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Post by xg15 »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #9

Pure rage bait. Strong claims require strong evidence - which isn't offered here. And besides, maybe the person running dates by Claude just does that for a bit of fun as a hobby. People have weird hobbies! Better not to yuck someone's yum. Maybe alternatively it's that person's way of experimenting with these new tools to explore what they can do. Maybe that person will discover something - for example, ebay was a t…

Evidence for what? That Silicon Valley has lost the plot? Or rather that its vision of "the future" turns out to be pretty horrible?

Weren't the past years - from attention economy, surveillance capitalism and enshittification over crypto grifters to rationalist cults , "existential AI risk" that they're simultaneously warning against and building to Thiel's "Antichrist" to every Big Tech company pivoting from progressive to conservative the moment Trump comes back into power - enough evidence?

Re: Never Enough

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Post by collinmcnulty »

The story about the woman recording her dates is getting extrapolated into too much. Her friends told her it made people uncomfortable and that she should stop. This is not a trend.

Re: Never Enough

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Post by pavel_lishin »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #9

Pure rage bait. Strong claims require strong evidence - which isn't offered here. And besides, maybe the person running dates by Claude just does that for a bit of fun as a hobby. People have weird hobbies! Better not to yuck someone's yum. Maybe alternatively it's that person's way of experimenting with these new tools to explore what they can do. Maybe that person will discover something - for example, ebay was a t…

> And besides, maybe the person running dates by Claude just does that for a bit of fun as a hobby. People have weird hobbies! Better not to yuck someone's yum.

Sure. But assuming that he's referring to Emmie Chang, it's very weird to record every conversation you have in general, and extra weird to be doing it on first dates.

If I went on a date and realized I was being recorded, I would immediately leave. This isn't normal, this is a wild choice to make. I will absolutely yuk this yum, the same way I would yuk the yum of someone who follows their date home and records them through a window.

Re: Never Enough

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Post by fragmede »

xg15 wrote: post #14
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #9

Pure rage bait. Strong claims require strong evidence - which isn't offered here. And besides, maybe the person running dates by Claude just does that for a bit of fun as a hobby. People have weird hobbies! Better not to yuck someone's yum. Maybe alternatively it's that person's way of experimenting with these new tools to explore what they can do. Maybe that person will discover something - for example, ebay was a t…

Evidence for what? That Silicon Valley has lost the plot? Or rather that its vision of "the future" turns out to be pretty horrible? Weren't the past years - from attention economy, surveillance capitalism and enshittification over crypto grifters to rationalist cults , "existential AI risk" that they're simultaneously warning against and building to Thiel's "Antichrist" to every Big Tech company pivoting from progre…

Their vision for the future was California Forever and it was shot down.

Re: Never Enough

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Post by pavel_lishin »

mulhoon wrote: post #8

This reminded me of work in general, years ago I was thinking how nursery was so expensive. I could try and work harder, earn more, to pay for nursery - or just quit and look after my children. If the goal was making money to look after my children, why make it difficult? p.s. LOVE the animated header on this blog

When we had a child, we decided that my spouse should absolutely go back to work, even though that job just barely paid for daycare. But it meant that my spouse could leave the house, have adult conversations, and not have their full life, 24/7, revolve around a single thing.

Re: Never Enough

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Post by fragmede »

amarcheschi wrote: post #5
kubb wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dating in the Silicon Valley must be hell.

The sheer thought of asking "how I performed" in one of the most subjective fields is the most ai-esque thing I read in a while

Yes. There were never any performative parts to dating prior to the release of ChatGPT in November, 2022.

Re: Never Enough

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Post by xg15 »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #16
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #9

Pure rage bait. Strong claims require strong evidence - which isn't offered here. And besides, maybe the person running dates by Claude just does that for a bit of fun as a hobby. People have weird hobbies! Better not to yuck someone's yum. Maybe alternatively it's that person's way of experimenting with these new tools to explore what they can do. Maybe that person will discover something - for example, ebay was a t…

> And besides, maybe the person running dates by Claude just does that for a bit of fun as a hobby. People have weird hobbies! Better not to yuck someone's yum. Sure. But assuming that he's referring to Emmie Chang, it's very weird to record every conversation you have in general, and extra weird to be doing it on first dates. If I went on a date and realized I was being recorded, I would immediately leave. This isn'…

Aah, sweet first dates. Pick a place, pick a time, swap each other's GDPR/CCPA consents. Who doesn't know it?
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