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Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by coldtea »

crote wrote: post #653
chinathrow wrote: post #534

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They should simply stop using any russian tech at this time.

Stop using all Russian tech for the illegal Ukraine invasion, stop using all American tech for using the illegal Iran war, stop using all Chinese tech for the Uyghur genocide, stop using all Arabian tech for their modern-day slavery, stop using all (most?) European tech for their direct support of the Palestinian Genocide... Very few acceptable countries left, it seems. Canada, maybe?

Canada, those oppressors of the natives?

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by jorisw »

mort96 wrote: post #615
p-e-w wrote: post #539

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If you consider supporting a Russian company equivalent to “supporting Russia”, then I assume you are happy to be supporting the United States by using US services… like the one you are on right now.

Yandex is especially tightly coupled to the Kremlin from what I've gathered. It seems less like supporting some American indie game development studio and more like supporting Palantir.

Gathered? Where?

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by pigpop »

placebo wrote: post #529
olalonde wrote: post #513

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Unpopular opinion: I think users should be free to choose.

If you are implying that this is the case because this is also how leaders are selected in a democracy, then of course the sarcasm is noted - but here's my real unpopular opinion: Democracy only has value when the majority of voters are not morons. Unfortunately, I can't come up with a better solution - maybe create a model for which there is a wide agreement on and let it rule?

It doesn't really matter what the system of government is, power-hungry psychopaths will always attempt to game the system in their favour. The history of governance is just a long arms race of inventing new systems to thwart them while they do everything they can to corrupt those systems and concentrate power in themselves. It's like fending off griefers in an online game, there's an endless supply of them, they don't care about the rules or the game, they just want to dominate other players for their own perverse enjoyment. The only lasting solution would either be some form of genetic modification to remove that trait from humanity entirely or some perfect way to identify them but you'd have to be extremely careful that they didn't gain access to and corrupt those things before they were completely eliminated.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by andersonpico »

freediver wrote: post #404

7 years ago we started the 'you are not the product' movement for digital information consumption with Kagi Search. Since then the paradigm shifted from search to agents. Good to see the need for 'you are not the product' still holds up, maybe even more so now: an agent is only worth trusting if it works for you and nobody else. The second an advertiser gets between you and the answer, that's gone. So we're staying o…

Keep fighting the good fight. Also, offering a counterpoint for the sibling comments: Yandex results are the most valuable for the type of thing censored in all other search engines. If I want to search for news on the war on Ukraine I go anywhere, but the things yandex works for are censored everywhere else.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

placebo wrote: post #631
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #618

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I prefer "Democracy only has value when the majority of voters are informed". This covers your case, but it also redresses the balance to shift blame away from everyday people and onto society as a whole.

Isn't society made up of everyday people? While I agree that the public being informed is a mutual responsibility, placing that responsibility on the government (which in many cases has plenty of incentive to keeping people ignorant) will not work either.

> placing that responsibility on the government will not work either.

I agree, but a) the responsibility is on us all: citizens, government, and the media b) we can definitely introduce regulations that force government to be more open, etc.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by libertine »

x______________ wrote: post #549
chinathrow wrote: post #545

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Have you followed the news?

How the US is attempting to flatten Iran and everyone is boycotting US products? Maybe we are getting wiser to 'country bogeymen bad' stories and realizing that only bad people do bad things.

Why are you trying to divert the topic?

You don't think the genocide in Ukraine has enough scale of a tragedy, with more than 2 million casualties since 2022? Isn't this enough to flag a product?

The Ukrainians posed no threat to anyone, they didn't have a nuclear program, in fact they surrendered the third largest nuclear stockpile and one of the signatures of the memorandum is trying to delete Ukraine.

Why are you trying to dilute this event which is directly related to the topic?

Is it to try to normalize the crime of genocide in Ukraine?

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by andersonpico »

layer8 wrote: post #546
maho wrote: post #504

If a majority of users switch to ad-powered free tiers, a majority of users will see well-written, targeted advice that is ads (lies!) in disguise. This is a horrible future to consider. The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion that a society that bans ads is a healthier, more robust society, and I am not alone. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43595269

> ads in disguise These are illegal in most jurisdictions. We need to apply the existing laws.

You can't fight this battle in the current judicial system. If before anyone can successfully bring a lawsuit in front of a judge the company has unlimited money, then at least one of these three things will be true:

a. the damages won't make a dent

b. they can throw lawyers at the problem for the win

c. they will have grafted their way into the economy so deeply that no one will want to kill their main source of income

This battle is already lost, if they find economical success then they are untouchable.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by senordevnyc »

passivegains wrote: post #453
erikerikson wrote: post #441

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Like money? Or agriculture? Sincerely though, can you explain?

"We need most of our population working full time to keep ourselves fed because running a farm is really hard" is a technical problem, not a societal one. You can solve it with fertilizer and the cotton gin or whatever. "There's a bunch of us now and barter isn't cutting it anymore" is a technical problem, not a societal one. You can solve it with coinage and banks or whatever. "The internet used to be fun and useful…

What? Why? Why would those first two be "technical problems" that we can "solve" with innovation, but that last example isn't? What makes something a technical problem vs. a societal problem?

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by khurs »

I just clicked on an ad in ChatGPT mobile app.

As per the press release, it opens up a screen which takes up 90% showing the new site.

It's not a good browsing experience, as it's not a 100% full screen so smaller on an already small phone screen. Couldn't see a 'open in browser' option.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by senordevnyc »

echelon wrote: post #644
ifh-hn wrote: post #484

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People have been trying to use technology to solve the problems technology since this began. Your solution is probably the worse pipe dream I've ever seen articulated. You state that current alternatives are too rubbish because you want to use the services you seem to despise. And your willing to pin your hopes on yet another technology to do it because this one is definitely trustworthy and has your best interests a…

Why is everyone here so myopic? Why pay Kagi or whatever at all? How can you trust them or anyone, if this is your belief? Why even pay your ISP? Just go back to candlelight and corn flakes and stay away from radio waves. You'd better not own a smart phone if this is truly how you feel about the world, because it clashes with what you just said. Come on.

It's a boring answer, but nerds are cynical because they think it makes them look smarter.
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