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Codeberg: ToU extension to prohibit LLM-extrusions

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Re: Codeberg: ToU extension to prohibit LLM-extrusions

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Post by robin_reala »

onesandofgrain wrote: post #11

Codeberg is just a nice logo wrapped around Forgejo/Gitea. I don't really see the appeal besides free hosting + some storage. People should either self-host a gitea/forgejo/gogs server for like 3$ a month on hetzner or just use gitea.com. If you want to share your repos, just use sharemygit.com and spread the repo on coding forums. Personally I find this a much better stimulant for a community, then just having free-…

Private repos are allowed, although with some restrictions:

Private repositories are only allowed for things required for FLOSS projects, like storing secrets, team-internal discussions or hiding projects from the public until they're ready for usage and/or contribution. They are also allowed for really small & personal stuff like your journal, config files, ideas or notes, but explicitly not as a personal cloud or media storage.

This is reasonable: Codeberg is specifically set up to be a code host for open-source projects, not for closed-source commercial code.

Re: Codeberg: ToU extension to prohibit LLM-extrusions

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Post by Anoian »

ca1f wrote: post #18
xlii wrote: post #8

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2030: By popular demand, we will accept code contributions received via a fax machine.

As it is a german company that is not as far fetched as one might think. (I am german and the on requesting this would be government institutions)

Re: Codeberg: ToU extension to prohibit LLM-extrusions

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Post by lelanthran »

jaggs wrote: post #2

This is a bit strange. Are they saying that Codeberg no longer accepts vibe coded projects at all? If so, it seems kind of short sighted. Within a very short period of time all code will be AI code. What then? And as the models improve, along with better code will come better bug fixing etc etc. So the quality of AI code will absolutely surpass that of human code. What then? Will the repositories demand proof of prog…

> If so, it seems kind of short sighted. Within a very short period of time all code will be AI code. What then?

Then you'll use one of the many, many providers who will host your code. Why is it so important to you that this specific provider has to host vibe-coded stuff when you can host it anywhere else? Is "rest of the world" not a big enough place for you?

Re: Codeberg: ToU extension to prohibit LLM-extrusions

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Post by brabel »

vrganj wrote: post #7
jaggs wrote: post #2

This is a bit strange. Are they saying that Codeberg no longer accepts vibe coded projects at all? If so, it seems kind of short sighted. Within a very short period of time all code will be AI code. What then? And as the models improve, along with better code will come better bug fixing etc etc. So the quality of AI code will absolutely surpass that of human code. What then? Will the repositories demand proof of prog…

> So the quality of AI code will absolutely surpass that of human code. This is unfounded speculation, presented as inevitable fact.

Seems pretty inevitable to me. I already don’t trust myself to write code without it being reviewed by AI . It always finds something wrong!

Re: Codeberg: ToU extension to prohibit LLM-extrusions

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Post by vrganj »

brabel wrote: post #25
vrganj wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So the quality of AI code will absolutely surpass that of human code. This is unfounded speculation, presented as inevitable fact.

Seems pretty inevitable to me. I already don’t trust myself to write code without it being reviewed by AI . It always finds something wrong!

Sure, but seems again is a subjective qualifier. It's not the same as presenting something as objective fact.

Re: Codeberg: ToU extension to prohibit LLM-extrusions

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Post by rapnie »

onesandofgrain wrote: post #11

Codeberg is just a nice logo wrapped around Forgejo/Gitea. I don't really see the appeal besides free hosting + some storage. People should either self-host a gitea/forgejo/gogs server for like 3$ a month on hetzner or just use gitea.com. If you want to share your repos, just use sharemygit.com and spread the repo on coding forums. Personally I find this a much better stimulant for a community, then just having free-…

> Codeberg is just a nice logo wrapped around Forgejo/Gitea.

Not true. Codeberg is first of all a downstream fork [0] of Forgejo, making adaptations for high-scale use. And it offers additional services that Forgejo does not offer. Then it has a full-blown non-profit organization around it that enables community participation. It is the presidium of the community members that decided on the new ToU.

Forgejo is a hard fork of Gitea with a GPLv3 license, instead of MIT. Codeberg used to be based on Gitea, but it no longer does for many years now.

[0] https://codeberg.org/Codeberg-Infrastructure/forgejo

Re: Codeberg: ToU extension to prohibit LLM-extrusions

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Post by CodesInChaos »

I'd avoid using overly opinionated code hosters that capriciously change their ToS to ban content that was allowed before without a very good reason. I'd like my code to survive long after I stop maintaining it, and such changes reduce my trust that a hoster will achieve that.

(This specific change wouldn't affect me, since all the code I published was written without AI)

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