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LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Stop hooking up your LG tv to any network

Want to stream Netflix? Disney+? Hulu? You need to hook something up to a network, and another device would have similar risks. Setting up a sandboxed VPC or auditing traffic is beyond the means of the average TV owner.

Apple TV is the usual recommendation.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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I am afraid that my dumb TV, which I've been holding onto for many years, might be on its last leg. I remember seeing privacy guides for smart TVs over the years, does anyone know a place with up to date info? Most 55inch monitors are now "smart" sadly, so are most "digital signage" products. So there is no longer a way to get a true dumb panel at least over 50 inch EDIT I am in Australia, there might be products tha…

I share your disappointment. I just want a screen with a tuner. If I want any “apps”, I’ll pair it with another device which will probably be an Apple TV.

I’m starting to wonder if a monitor and a soundbar with an external tuner is possible.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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I'm very worried with all this bullshit around TVs. I've been running the same Samsung UE40C6530 since 2010. It's 16 f'ng years and the thing works flawlessly like the first day. No other electronic device in my life worked so well, during so long. But I'm about to move to a new home, and it feels like it's about time to get something more modern, at least a 4k TV. But I'm honestly totally lost at what to buy. I do n…

If you hook an Apple TV (or similar) up to any 4k TV, and turn CEC on (to let the Apple TV control it), and never set it up otherwise, it becomes a dumb monitor.

My parents got new telco IPTV boxes and they are excellent. Even voice search in our niche language works flawlessly.

Apple TV I got them few years ago just sits there unused.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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> researchers found that more than 42 percent of games and other apps available for download on LG’s webOS store allow unknown third-parties to route their Internet traffic through a user’s TV.

Eh, so even sources as reliable as Krebs on Security sometimes engage in bad statistics.

This is a statistic that feels significant, but actually tells you nothing. For all we know, "42% of all apps" can mean a single spray-and-pray campaign with a few hundred downloads in total, with the vast majority of users only downloading apps from the top10, which are all unaffected. Or maybe the problem is widespread across the entire distribution of app downloads, with the majority of users having at least one infected app. We don't know either way, because "42% of apps" is a completely meaningless statistic.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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I am afraid that my dumb TV, which I've been holding onto for many years, might be on its last leg. I remember seeing privacy guides for smart TVs over the years, does anyone know a place with up to date info? Most 55inch monitors are now "smart" sadly, so are most "digital signage" products. So there is no longer a way to get a true dumb panel at least over 50 inch EDIT I am in Australia, there might be products tha…

I share your disappointment. I just want a screen with a tuner. If I want any “apps”, I’ll pair it with another device which will probably be an Apple TV. I’m starting to wonder if a monitor and a soundbar with an external tuner is possible.

I don't even care about the tuner part. If I ever get the desire to watch linear TV again, I'll just get an IPTV subscription.

A decent-ish TV-sized panel with at least a single HDMI input really is all I need.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you on the precedent > after MS implemented precision touchpads somewhere in 2015, and suddenly Windows touchpads became as precise as those on Macs. There’s still a world of difference between a MacBook touchpad and a windows one. My work laptop (18 month old dell XPS) can’t hold a candle to my 6 year old MacBook’s trackpad. > Likewise with RGB peripherals. Even GPU driver applications have increasingly…

> There’s still a world of difference between a MacBook touchpad and a windows one Oddly I've found otherwise (Dell Precision notebook from 2021, and Surface Laptop). It might be macOS's animations and smoothing interfering here, but I've found that my Windows touchpads are much more responsive, especially when swiping between desktops. > The peripherals still need the addons though Ugh, this is annoying. Hardware ve…

On the trackpads - I only ever use my MacBook as a single screen device, so the experience may be different. A long time ago I used it with an external monitor and the experience was very poor compared to windows.

> Ugh, this is annoying. Hardware vendors need to be banned from writing lousy, inefficient, unsafe software.

Yeah, I commented on the McAfee LG thread but the stuff that comes bundled with hardware is embarassing. I don’t know how Razer, Logitech, nvidia, MSI, asus, etc get away with it. The stuff is awful, even their “good” software. I work in games and a few years ago the biggest correlation we had between unexplained crashes/performance problems in the wild was users having MSI Afterburner installed. Users thought it did great things and fixed a bunch of games but it absolutely thrashed everything we worked very hard to do and caused no end of issues doing so.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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I am afraid that my dumb TV, which I've been holding onto for many years, might be on its last leg. I remember seeing privacy guides for smart TVs over the years, does anyone know a place with up to date info? Most 55inch monitors are now "smart" sadly, so are most "digital signage" products. So there is no longer a way to get a true dumb panel at least over 50 inch EDIT I am in Australia, there might be products tha…

If you don't ever give your network credentials to the Smart TV you've closed off 99% of the attack surface.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

#210
post #30

Stop hooking up your LG tv to any network

Want to stream Netflix? Disney+? Hulu? You need to hook something up to a network, and another device would have similar risks. Setting up a sandboxed VPC or auditing traffic is beyond the means of the average TV owner.

> and another device would have similar risks

Do you think an Apple TV and a Walmart special TV have same risks? I don't. I give the Apple device my network credentials and the TV never sees them.

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