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Another win for the Linux security model (software installed and updated manually from vetted repos only).
Surely you mean Linux security model (not relevant enough to be targeted by big tech)?
LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps
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Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps
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Stop hooking up your LG: https://www.theverge.com/tech/967983/lg-monitors-mcafee-adwa...
Fine with Linux though :) LG's behavior isn't fine, but their monitors don't install crapware on Linux.
It's Windows Update that's installing LG crapware upon seeing relevant hardware IDs. That's why the problem affected older monitors too - it's the update side that suddenly started to ship malware.
Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps
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Another win for the Linux security model (software installed and updated manually from vetted repos only).
Wait, you're saying a monitor can just advertise a URL over the video connection for its driver and then Windows will blindly install it, without user confirmation? I thought that LG had submitted these "drivers" (adware) to Microsoft and they approved it.
It's just a device attached to a computer.
But in a Plug-and-Play world, its addition is noticed by the operating system -- as has been normal for decades.
Microsoft's Windows operating system sees this new hardware ID and then goes forth to install whatever-the-fuck software it associates with that identification, presumably as a service to the user. (Did Microsoft approve it? Dunno. I'm just over hear eating popcorn.)
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I haven’t looked recently but last I checked Samsung made the best panels. Has that changed recently?
Samsung scored highest on https://www.rtings.com/ for my criteria, and I'm happy with the purchase. I didn't connect it to the network, of course. (I had to stop my handyman from connecting it and he seemed to think I was crazy for insisting.)
That made a Samsung behave a little better. But giving it no network access is better.
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Have to agree, WebOS is much better than Android TV OS, with ads on the dashboard.
As long as you keep it off the internet. Otherwise it’s absolute loaded with adverts everywhere.
Android TV even has ads for Disney and Apple, which I never installed.
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Have to agree, WebOS is much better than Android TV OS, with ads on the dashboard.
You can replace the Android TV launcher with an alternative like Projectivy [1] to get rid of whatever nonsense the stock launcher tries to push. Add Flicky [2] to address F-Droid and you've got a nuisance-free Android TV. [1] https://github.com/spocky/miproja1 [2] https://github.com/mlm-games/flicky
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Another win for the Linux security model (software installed and updated manually from vetted repos only).
Wait, you're saying a monitor can just advertise a URL over the video connection for its driver and then Windows will blindly install it, without user confirmation? I thought that LG had submitted these "drivers" (adware) to Microsoft and they approved it.
1. Yes Windows must have "approved" the drivers
2. Windows Update runs automatically and not (usually) manually
3. Automatic update can't even be disabled, only manually postponed a bit
At least 2 and 3 are different on virtually every Linux distro. Also, I find it very unlikely that they would accept such behavior.
To give MS the benefit of the doubt here, now that this happened and has been reported on they might decide to enforce stricter rules on manufacturers in the future. But as a Windows user you don't have a choice in case you don't like how they decide and how their decisions might change again later.
Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fine with Linux though :) LG's behavior isn't fine, but their monitors don't install crapware on Linux.
Another win for the Linux security model (software installed and updated manually from vetted repos only).
I swear, OSs have become sports teams.
Linux's 'security model’ has plenty of holes. The very fact the kernel and much of its user-mode is written in C almost guarantees that its security model is worthless. The Linux ecosystem operates on trust and respect that can and has been easily abused by bad actors to provide supply-chain pwnage.
There have been so many zero-click local privilege escalation CVEs I've lost track.
Arch Linux AUR malware: https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/aur-general@lists....
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I haven’t looked recently but last I checked Samsung made the best panels. Has that changed recently?
Their panels are often over-saturated with that fake HDR like look, similar to their phones.
Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps
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Fine with Linux though :) LG's behavior isn't fine, but their monitors don't install crapware on Linux.
The monitors aren't installing anything. That headline was a lie. It's Windows Update that's installing LG crapware upon seeing relevant hardware IDs. That's why the problem affected older monitors too - it's the update side that suddenly started to ship malware.
This is also a misrepresentation. Microsoft has provided LG with a certificate to sign its driver packages with, and allows LG to upload packages to Windows Update, which includes a feature to install sidecar applications. Now, the spirit of this feature is that any application is meant to provide genuine configuration functionality or some graphical front end to the driver's configuration knobs.
LG then abused that feature to provide adware. Now, there are millions of hardware vendors. One can't expect that every driver package submission from every vendor is thoroughly vetted every time, this is a matter of trust and respect.
Sometimes one actually wants the app that comes with the device, like AMD's and NVIDIA's configuration trays.
Even so, I fully expect that after this debacle MS will disable this stuff. There is precedent for this. Synaptics/ELAN/Alps touchpad tray applications largely disappeared after MS implemented precision touchpads somewhere in 2015, and suddenly Windows touchpads became as precise as those on Macs. Likewise with RGB peripherals. Even GPU driver applications have increasingly become less useful as the most important features—power control, adaptive sync, HDR, etc have moved into native Windows settings.