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LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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My TV doesn't know my router's wi-fi password.

Pretty sure they can get internet through the HDMI cord from Roku or similar device

E-Arc uses the wires intended for Ethernet. Hook your Roku up to an earc port if you're seriously concerned about it.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Heh. tinfoil hat on I always suspected that the AI gods would manifest themselves through TV. Hat stays on from this point on. It is not like LG suddenly found it in their heart to stop the money flow from the offending apps. Not when combined with recent security incident at frontier labs and current admin freaking out over open models.

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I'm very worried with all this bullshit around TVs. I've been running the same Samsung UE40C6530 since 2010. It's 16 f'ng years and the thing works flawlessly like the first day. No other electronic device in my life worked so well, during so long. But I'm about to move to a new home, and it feels like it's about time to get something more modern, at least a 4k TV. But I'm honestly totally lost at what to buy. I do n…

You buy a commercial panel used for advertising/signage that's 3x the price of the "Smart" consumer panels.

Are there even any OLED commercial panels with HDR and VRR?

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Unfortunately they make arguably the best OLEDs and webOS is pretty decent to use (especially compared to the terrible OS that Samsung and Sony run). I think the best thing people can do is update their firmware then disconnect it from the internet. Using an AppleTV or similar provides a better experience than any TVs built in apps anyway.

Have to agree, WebOS is much better than Android TV OS, with ads on the dashboard.

You can replace the Android TV launcher with an alternative like Projectivy [1] to get rid of whatever nonsense the stock launcher tries to push. Add Flicky [2] to address F-Droid and you've got a nuisance-free Android TV.

[1] https://github.com/spocky/miproja1

[2] https://github.com/mlm-games/flicky

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Unfortunately they make arguably the best OLEDs and webOS is pretty decent to use (especially compared to the terrible OS that Samsung and Sony run). I think the best thing people can do is update their firmware then disconnect it from the internet. Using an AppleTV or similar provides a better experience than any TVs built in apps anyway.

I haven’t looked recently but last I checked Samsung made the best panels. Has that changed recently?

No, qd-oled is still best, LG is closing the gap with tandem oled but is still the second best panel tech.

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I haven’t looked recently but last I checked Samsung made the best panels. Has that changed recently?

Their panels are often over-saturated with that fake HDR like look, similar to their phones.

That goes away if you set them in filmaker mode.

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Stop hooking up your LG: https://www.theverge.com/tech/967983/lg-monitors-mcafee-adwa...

Fine with Linux though :) LG's behavior isn't fine, but their monitors don't install crapware on Linux.

Another win for the Linux security model (software installed and updated manually from vetted repos only).

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Pretty sure they can get internet through the HDMI cord from Roku or similar device

That would require the Roku to specifically be set up to act as a router. You can't just connect to a random device that's not specifically a router/AP and use its internet connection. Since Roku like other smart TV companies makes money off of user data captur, it's not incentivized to enable those conditions for a downstream device, especially if not specifically advertised as a feature.

If this was a feature they wanted to provide, it would simplest to set the Roku up as a bridge. No dhcp, no nat, just a virtual switch. Roku devices run on Linux, if their HDMI chip supports Ethernet and that's plumbed to a Linux supported MAC (probably not), it might take an hour to build and test the feature. Longer if the wifi interface doesn't like being bridged (I've seen that on some openwrt devices).

There's esp-idf examples from espressif for doing bridging on an esp32 if you have one with a MAC and a PHY and/or spi mac+phy.

Or for wired ethernet, they could include a three port switch IC.

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How important is "the best" OLED vs the second best or 100th best OLED? I am personally ok not buying the bleeding edge to not get malware onto my OS.

reasonably important, if you're never connecting your lg tv to any network, and just connecting it to an AppleTV or something and letting HDMI-CEC control it so you never even see their OS.

I would suggest a mini-PC running Linux and Plasma Bigscreen instead of an AppleTV if you want something 100% private and user-controlled.
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