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LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #72
oasisbob wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. I'm surprised Comcast or some other ISP doesn't step in with a claim of tortious interference. Reselling or granting access to the ISPs services like this is almost always against the ISPs terms of service. The consumer is in no place to consent to this exchange.

On the other hand if you want to resell 2% of your bandwidth the ISP shouldn't have any say in that.

Oh yes they can. If I'm a consumer, I pay for my connection that is sold to me and held in my name. I have no right to "resell" or "sublet" part of that. It is usually spelled out in the Terms of Service or Acceptable Use Policy.

At the very least, consumer connections explicitly disallow "Commercial Use". That means that you can't use them to run a business. You can't use them to turn a profit. You can't use them to generate revenue. That means no running servers, and that means no "reselling 2% of your bandwidth" for a few pennies because some Euro-Trash-Stranger wants to borrow it!

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Post by pjmlp »

smcleod wrote: post #43
CivBase wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop buying LG TVs.

Unfortunately they make arguably the best OLEDs and webOS is pretty decent to use (especially compared to the terrible OS that Samsung and Sony run). I think the best thing people can do is update their firmware then disconnect it from the internet. Using an AppleTV or similar provides a better experience than any TVs built in apps anyway.

Have to agree, WebOS is much better than Android TV OS, with ads on the dashboard.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Post by globular-toast »

mey wrote: post #54
smcleod wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately they make arguably the best OLEDs and webOS is pretty decent to use (especially compared to the terrible OS that Samsung and Sony run). I think the best thing people can do is update their firmware then disconnect it from the internet. Using an AppleTV or similar provides a better experience than any TVs built in apps anyway.

How important is "the best" OLED vs the second best or 100th best OLED? I am personally ok not buying the bleeding edge to not get malware onto my OS.

Exactly. If you get the best today it'll be the second best tomorrow anyway. Absolute position is undetectable, you can only perceive change. Use that to your advantage and stay off the treadmill.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Post by thewebguyd »

walrus01 wrote: post #21
glimshe wrote: post #18

My TV doesn't know my router's wi-fi password.

I've said it before on HN a long time ago but I'll repeat myself, I have about a thousand times more confidence that Sony and/or Microsoft will keep their PS5 and Xbox operating systems secure and not crapped up with stuff like this, than I do that random TV manufacturers will not result in a cybersecurity or privacy disaster. Yeah, the PS and Xbox OSes show you ads, and they have telemetry. But both companies also h…

The gaming consoles aren't subsidized via the data collection like smart TVs are via content recognition (selling everything on your screen to advertisers).

Consoles are sometimes sold at a loss, but the revenue model is different. Playstation plus/game pass, a cut of game sales and microtransactions, exclusives, and accessories.

No one should ever connect their TV to the internet. There just isn't any reason to, get access to your streaming apps another way.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Post by thewebguyd »

Fantosism wrote: post #87
0xblinq wrote: post #64

I'm very worried with all this bullshit around TVs. I've been running the same Samsung UE40C6530 since 2010. It's 16 f'ng years and the thing works flawlessly like the first day. No other electronic device in my life worked so well, during so long. But I'm about to move to a new home, and it feels like it's about time to get something more modern, at least a 4k TV. But I'm honestly totally lost at what to buy. I do n…

You buy a commercial panel used for advertising/signage that's 3x the price of the "Smart" consumer panels.

the smart consumer panels would also be more expensive if they weren't subsidized via the spyware.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Post by michaelchisari »

s1ncere wrote: post #30

Stop hooking up your LG tv to any network

Never once had a problem with an LG because I've never given it internet access. A trustworthy set top box handles everything instead. Concerned that might not be an option in the future.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Post by kazinator »

declan_roberts wrote: post #31
glimshe wrote: post #18

My TV doesn't know my router's wi-fi password.

My TV thinks it's January 1st 1970.

And so it thinks it is fairly new, then, and doesn't require any tubes replaced. Should that change, it will let you know.
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