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Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Now when I see new software projects I just think of how much of them are made with agents and the unreliability/easy abandonment that comes with it. Ten years ago this product would have been of a known quality. Not saying anything about buzz specifically.

Nah. I made plenty of software and then abandoned them because I lost interest in them. My GitHub is already a fairly large collection of my own abandoned software, and there are 10x more on my PC that I never bothered to upload to GitHub. Easy abandonment is always there.

Not at all the same thing. Your half-baked works can't appear to be anything else than what they actually are. You are in no danger of wasting anyone's time.

For one thing, you probably never tried to mislead anyone. Did you put 8 minutes of effort into something and then come here and try to say "Hey world, here is a thing you should all care about and invest in. I mean, I didn't, but you should."?

But even if you did try, you physically cannot (5 years ago) generate the equivalent of 10 years of work by a 10 person team complete with docs and tests that all looks plausible and maybe even runs.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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No one is going to churn Slack for this just because it is "Agent First". Slack is more than good enough to tag Agents and will fill in the missing pieces slowly

Slack's approach is NOT good enough, because the version of the Agent that lives in Slack cannot see the context of the Agent that lives inside Cursor on my developer laptop. They might be clones with identical brains, but they can't talk to each other or compare notes.

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Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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This could fill a useful niche. However I would assume Anthropic and OpenAI are going to build their own and steamroll in 6-12 months.

I did a dive recently on git forges for agent swarms. Radicle lacks an identity layer, the federated/COB model seems good. Tangled has no private repo story, though the social layer is solid; they also have an (IMO) awkward modeling of Issues as tweets at her than being owned by the repo.

So I think there is an opening for a private agent-first forge. (Before the HN dogpile, assume that if you don’t buy the value of agent swarms, you can ignore this whole thread.)

My concern for this project - Anthropic is explicitly building in this direction. Their latest product is Tag which is an auth model for running agents async within Slack. The obvious next feature to build from there is the forge; if GitHub gets disintermediated by the Agent UI, then Anthropic are free to swap out their own implementations behind the scenes. Multiplayer chat and repo/project management seem like the obvious next platform pieces to me. (This goes for any SaaS subscription of course, follow it to the N-hop logical conclusion.)

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Now when I see new software projects I just think of how much of them are made with agents and the unreliability/easy abandonment that comes with it. Ten years ago this product would have been of a known quality. Not saying anything about buzz specifically.

I'm left wondering why I should bother adopting - much less paying for - these kinds of projects. If it's that trivial to throw together, what value are you even delivering for me? Why wouldn't I just use the same tricks to spin my own solution that does exactly what I need and not whatever you think I might need?

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Half joking, half serious. We need AI to challenge assumptions to not just "you are absolutely correct" all the time.

I really need these LLMs to start being more like the gate keeping assholes of StackOverflow. Just a little dash of that energy would go a long way.

It's funny. Sometimes it's very confidently accepting any and everything, but then other times it'll fight me to the death that something dumb like idk symlinks don't exist and it's so foolish to think otherwise

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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That screenshot is some Lynchian horror. "#engineering. New direction, team – we're moving the prototype to Flutter" and then the humans and agent bots engage in flirty emoji-filled chats with cutesy names "I nailed the physics, UI shell @Honeybot?" I'm trying to imagine a world in which this makes sense as a way to organize software development work, but coming up short. It's on a blockchain or something though, so…

Nostr is not blockchain. It's a p2p protocol.

Nostr isn't really p2p it's just that if you stick to text it's cheap to host a server

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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The fact that he does that instead of focusing on what he is already in charge of is egregious. If I was a Block shareholder looking at this, I’d be upset. It’s been years of him going on side quests like Tidal, blockchain, weekly etc. while ignoring the core needs of his customers and losing out on various fronts. Toast is a $20B company while Block is some $50B company after the acquisition of cash app (which by th…

(I work for Block, not on this) Cash App was not an acquisition, it originated as a hackweek within (what was then called) Square. Possibly you’re thinking of the Afterpay acquisition?

Ahh sorry, you’re right, I meant Afterpay which was a $29B acquisition. I also meant Weebly not weekly (autocorrect).
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