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Kimi K3 Is Competitive with Fable; Kimi K3 and Fable Is SoTA

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Re: Kimi K3 Is Competitive with Fable; Kimi K3 and Fable Is SoTA

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A third the cost, open source, and won't refuse every other request because of some vague possible connection to cybersecurity concerns.

hmm almost like the exact race-to-the-bottom + arms-race dynamic all the doomers have been warning about

Re: Kimi K3 Is Competitive with Fable; Kimi K3 and Fable Is SoTA

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post #10

Hmmm, a company that hosts open models is telling us how good open models are...

The don't only host open weight models. Also, why not promote this. If Fireworks thinks this big news might convert some new business doesn't make it not true.

Re: Kimi K3 Is Competitive with Fable; Kimi K3 and Fable Is SoTA

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post #3

A third the cost, open source, and won't refuse every other request because of some vague possible connection to cybersecurity concerns.

hmm almost like the exact race-to-the-bottom + arms-race dynamic all the doomers have been warning about

One man's offensive penetration tool is another mans defensive tool. In the recent HuggingFace/OpenAI incident the safety controls stood in the way of the defenders, not the attackers:

https://www.thestack.technology/hugging-face-hacked-turned-t...

Re: Kimi K3 Is Competitive with Fable; Kimi K3 and Fable Is SoTA

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post #3

A third the cost, open source, and won't refuse every other request because of some vague possible connection to cybersecurity concerns.

hmm almost like the exact race-to-the-bottom + arms-race dynamic all the doomers have been warning about

Race to the bottom for the investors, utility for the rest of us. The future is already here, it’s just not evenly distributed yet (Gibson).

Re: Kimi K3 Is Competitive with Fable; Kimi K3 and Fable Is SoTA

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post #3

A third the cost, open source, and won't refuse every other request because of some vague possible connection to cybersecurity concerns.

Interestingly the reality of the open source release is they are opening up to full distillation by the closed source model providers at a deeper and more fundamental level. If anything the open sourcing will help Anthropic and open ai ladder up faster. Open source has always been about mutual cooperation towards a goal and has never closed the door to commercial success. All the hand wringing about open weight models putting closed providers at a disadvantage doesn’t get what working in the open actually does for commercial interests - it is like science in the open - it enables and lifts all boats. Likewise commercial success doesn’t close the opportunity for competition or more open source work - it’s the economy of activity and competition that matters overall. When things stagnate is when closer concerns turtle up and collude on not competing for each others turf.

The future is good and better for everyone the more work is in the open and the more work is in the commercial space. It’s good all around.

Re: Kimi K3 Is Competitive with Fable; Kimi K3 and Fable Is SoTA

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post #3

A third the cost, open source, and won't refuse every other request because of some vague possible connection to cybersecurity concerns.

hmm almost like the exact race-to-the-bottom + arms-race dynamic all the doomers have been warning about

Doom for whom?
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