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Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

#161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But who is allowed to press it? If anyone, then anyone can expose career ruining messages from someone else, even inadvertently.

1. A workspace admin or 2. by permission of all on thread, or AI inspects contents and gates on 1 or 2 if anything sensitive. This isn't 1990, we can program stuff now.

The OPs comments weren’t just a hypothetical. We’ve already seen numerous instances where agents have leaked private data. Even GitHub’s own Copilot has been found guilty of these vulnerabilities.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

#162

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Private groups are the worst thing in a truly collaborative environment. Would be nice in Slack to have a Publish this whole freaking thread to a public channel button.

But who is allowed to press it? If anyone, then anyone can expose career ruining messages from someone else, even inadvertently.

That can already happen with screenshots

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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> Explain Like I'm 5 > Buzz is an open-source, self-hosted workspace that combines team chat, AI agents and Git hosting using signed Nostr events, so teams can keep control of their data. Very different expectations of 5-year-olds.

It’s kinda interesting seeing what, IIRC, was originally a subreddit name which spawned from an AskReddit thread, is now a common marketing phrase in the tech world. Similar to the sub itself, it’s now just shorthand for “describe using the first principles the expected audience should understand.” I imagine a lot of people in the industry also fondly remember the 2010s reddit experience.

It’s way older than Reddit, it’s older than the Office. I remember Denzel Washington saying it in some movie when I was a kid, and I doubt it originated there. Doesn’t Einstein have a quotation about it, too?

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Disclaimer that I used to work at Slack I love that we're challenging the status quo in chat. It feels like we've settled into an eternal September of sorts. I am somewhat bearish that Slack and Teams will survive, or rise to, the agent era. That said, I'm curious whether NOSTR is really the protocol for this. For some really large corporations you're looking at a lot of clients (and their shadows like cellphones, lo…

I think a happy medium like signal would be much better, slack is an immovable part of much of the (white-collar) business relationship world now but it'd be nice if there were assurances of secrecy and security in communication as 24/7 cyberattacks rather than a company whose security is based solely on promises rather than zero-knowledge systems. Signal has had far and away the best cross-platform messaging experience of any client I've used in friend groups but moving to a slack-like system alongside what exists now would be much appreciated to the noisy channel approach.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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> Explain Like I'm 5 > Buzz is an open-source, self-hosted workspace that combines team chat, AI agents and Git hosting using signed Nostr events, so teams can keep control of their data. Very different expectations of 5-year-olds.

It’s kinda interesting seeing what, IIRC, was originally a subreddit name which spawned from an AskReddit thread, is now a common marketing phrase in the tech world. Similar to the sub itself, it’s now just shorthand for “describe using the first principles the expected audience should understand.” I imagine a lot of people in the industry also fondly remember the 2010s reddit experience.

"If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself." - Albert Einstein (allegedly :))

I always thought that the quote was with "5 year old" and that it was the reason for ELI5 :)

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

#166

Hi, folks There's a brief write-up on Buzz here https://engineering.block.xyz/blog/buzz

You start with this premise

> It’s great and works really well for us, but it raises lots of questions. Does everyone get a bot? If people share one, whose credentials does it use?

Eventually you throw in this admission in the middle of other stuff:

> Buzz gives each agent its own key. The agent’s owner signs a narrowly scoped authorization. The agent then signs its own work with its own identity.

So you're explicitly picking a bot per person, you're just calling them an agent. But you never really admit this because you call it 'an agent' rather than "the user's agent". You're still ending up with lots of agents each owned by people, you're just writing another orchestration layer yourself.

> The agent remains the author. Its credential proves who authorized it and under what conditions.

Right yeh, so the human is the responsible party.

> If an agent key leaks, revoke the agent without replacing the human identity behind it.

Just like you revoke an app-key on GitHub/Slack. This isn't a revolutionary thing you're doing.

You then throw in this curveball.

> Buzz can also run an agent’s model requests on another community member’s machine.

How? How is this resource managed or limited? Do I have to assume Buzz will just borrow my laptop's CPU & GPU at random?

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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> Explain Like I'm 5 > Buzz is an open-source, self-hosted workspace that combines team chat, AI agents and Git hosting using signed Nostr events, so teams can keep control of their data. Very different expectations of 5-year-olds.

Seriously, what's hope is left for adults when a 5 year old understands signed Nostr events? The ELI-SWE is the docs I guess? I want to get off the Silicon Valley marketing express.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

#170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But who is allowed to press it? If anyone, then anyone can expose career ruining messages from someone else, even inadvertently.

1. A workspace admin or 2. by permission of all on thread, or AI inspects contents and gates on 1 or 2 if anything sensitive. This isn't 1990, we can program stuff now.

> This isn't 1990, we can program stuff now.

What a curious thing to say. My impression has been, if you put the accomplishments of computer science prior to 1990 against those subsequent, the prior would be more impressive, perhaps by a lot.

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