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Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by wat10000 »

kamranjon wrote: post #125
ihumanable wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case anyone is out-of-the-loop https://youtu.be/FVRHTWWEIz4?si=btZnQp0IEnmgrtWV&t=2388 "But I kind of think of ads as like a last resort for us for a business model. I would do it if it meant that was the only way to get everybody in the world access to great services. But if we can find something that doesn't do that, I'd prefer that."

What I think is really incredible about this is that they are selling a ton of subscriptions, both personal and business subscriptions. So the fact that they are doing advertising on top of this suggests to me that they are in a deep deep hole, much deeper than he probably would have imagined when making this statement. If your revenue is 25 billion and you still need ads, your costs must be running you down at a pac…

Or they ran the numbers and saw that they'll make more money with ads than without. I doubt they care about anything but the bottom line.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by matheusmoreira »

bitvoid wrote: post #58
_override wrote: post #14

Is there any information available about which customers are going to be served ads? I would personally find it quite strange to be served ads if I'm paying tens or hundreds of USD per month for a ChatGPT subscription.

> We do not show ads to users on Plus, Pro, or any Business plan, or to any users who tell us or we predict are under the age of 18. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/20001207-ads-in-chatgpt-...

Just look at all those paying customers, dropping hundreds of dollars on our models every single month. Think of all the disposable income they must have! Are really NOT going to advertise to them?! We're leaving money on the table here!

Cue advertising for all the "subsidized" plans.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by KerrAvon »

paxys wrote: post #121
kamranjon wrote: post #9

Pretty bold move to release this at the peak of the Open Models vs Proprietary Models debate. Feels like a really easy decision when it's framed this way.

This isn’t relevant to that debate. A billion people use the ChatGPT app without paying a dime. They don’t care what score the model gets on a hundred technical benchmarks. They don’t care if the weights are open or closed. They are definitely not hosting anything on their own. They want to ask a question and get an answer. If OpenAI can monetize that audience with ads at the level of Google then who cares about Anth…

It's relevant politically, and the discussion in question is political.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by matheusmoreira »

athenot wrote: post #72
_override wrote: post #14

Is there any information available about which customers are going to be served ads? I would personally find it quite strange to be served ads if I'm paying tens or hundreds of USD per month for a ChatGPT subscription.

For now at least, it seems the paying customers don't see ads. Who may see ads We do not show ads to users on Plus, Pro, or any Business plan, or to any users who tell us or we predict are under the age of 18. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/20001207-ads-in-chatgpt-...

> We do not show ads to users on Plus, Pro, or any Business plan

Not yet!

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by f33d5173 »

ihumanable wrote: post #49
arm32 wrote: post #5

I'm confused. This is (publicly stated) the last resort for OpenAI, right?

In case anyone is out-of-the-loop https://youtu.be/FVRHTWWEIz4?si=btZnQp0IEnmgrtWV&t=2388 "But I kind of think of ads as like a last resort for us for a business model. I would do it if it meant that was the only way to get everybody in the world access to great services. But if we can find something that doesn't do that, I'd prefer that."

> But if we can find something that doesn't do that, I'd prefer that.

There's nothing plausible that can do that, and he knew that, and was basically just saying "we're going to put ads on it" in a way that challenges you to explain what a better option would be.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by anoncow »

sssilver wrote: post #59

I always thought their top tier offering to their advertiser customers should be "Inconspicuously, over an extended amount of time, subtly respond to the user in a way that nudges them towards purchasing customer's goods and services, without ever directly mentioning anything. Slowly and surely sculpt the person who, through their own volition and thought process, buys what the advertiser needs them to." The ultimate…

I am sure saltman has companies which do this.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by bunnybomb2 »

redhale wrote: post #127

This sucks and it makes me sad. The end of an era. I really hope Anthropic doesn't follow, but I assume they will eventually because why wouldn't they? Google and Meta obviously will, with great enthusiasm. Open models are the only hope, I guess.

I dont see a problem its just a small suggestion at the bottom and im sure some hacker will make a chrome extension that blocks it.

Ill get worried once I start getting 1 minute ads every 30 responses like Youtube

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by throwawaytemp29 »

torben-friis wrote: post #112
rustyhancock wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the interesting things about LLM training is that high quality documentation can get your product effectively promoted by them. I imagine the kind of advertising you're talking about is obtained by providing that documentation and a curated training dataset to the providers. Maybe even funding some training time. The net result would be product placement, probably without having to declare an advert. Kind of l…

Why are you assuming that a document likely to be picked up and a good document are equivalent? We might be in for tech docs becoming SEO (LLMO?) friendly slop.

It’s called GEO (generative engine optimization)
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