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Map of the world's great castles and fortresses

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#81

This dataset is bad. The North Carolina state capitol is a castle?

Same reaction! I just drove by it... taking a careful note after seeing it in the article. It does appear a bit keep-like, but that's a stretch. Maybe if the surrounding roads were replaced with walls/battlements/ramparts and such?

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post #27

If you submit some map, at least don't have the title contradict the content description: "the 2,435 most significant landmarks worldwide, ordered by a fame ranking that blends Wikipedia coverage with real readership." or someone fix the title here please to what on the app right now: "Map of the world's great castles & fortresses" whatever that means. Germany's Saxony alone has 700+ fortications with about 100 being…

I would take it as just rounding 2,435 -> 2,400. No big deal.

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#84

Cool idea, horrible dataset. Its limited to things in Wikidata rather than using OSM, and it must have an article on Wikipedia in English to count so I am sure it is missing just based on that. And somehow it misses many castles (and other categories it includes) which do meet those requirements. There is no definition of what they use to categorize anything either. And it clearly isn't applied consistently. There is…

In France castles are all called Châteaux.

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post #37

This is off by many degrees of magnitude for Ireland at least: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1nkvqd7/oc...

Seems like your map lists pre-historic ring forts, not castles? I'm not sure what the 'official' definition of a castle is, but I personally wouldn't consider a crannóg or something like Dún Aonghasa a castle. Nor would I consider a stand alone tower house a castle, although they might (along with gate lodges and great houses), sometimes be colloquially referred to as castles. Surely a castle is a fortified building,…

In the intro paragraph of the linked Wikipedia page: “Use of the term has varied over time and, sometimes, has also been applied to structures such as hill forts”.

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post #84

Cool idea, horrible dataset. Its limited to things in Wikidata rather than using OSM, and it must have an article on Wikipedia in English to count so I am sure it is missing just based on that. And somehow it misses many castles (and other categories it includes) which do meet those requirements. There is no definition of what they use to categorize anything either. And it clearly isn't applied consistently. There is…

In France castles are all called Châteaux.

What a coincidence! In France, all hats are called chapeaux!

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I had to look up Madagascar's castle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rova_of_Antananarivo

The Rova of Antananarivo /ˈruːvə/ (Malagasy: Rovan'i Manjakamiadana [ˈruvᵊn manˌdzakəmiˈadə̥nᵊ]) is a royal palace complex (rova) in Madagascar that was the home of the sovereigns of the Kingdom of Imerina in the 17th and 18th centuries, as well as of the rulers of the Kingdom of Madagascar in the 19th century. Located in the central highland city of Antananarivo, the Rova occupies the highest point on Analamanga, formerly the highest of Antananarivo's many hills.

Re: Map of the world's great castles and fortresses

#88

We just stayed in Dalhousie Castle, the oldest in Scotland. Very beautiful and well maintained, with lots of spooky history. If you want to leave a legacy, build something out of stone.

I mean no, it's not.

Castle Sween was built in the 11th century (and might still not be the oldest).

Dalhousie Castle was built in 1247 and the oldest bit of the surviving castle is from the 15th century. Most of it is from the 17th century. The roof is post-2004.

The actual lesson is, if you want to leave a legacy, hope someone rebuilds it when it falls apart after you're gone.

Re: Map of the world's great castles and fortresses

#89

Why nothing in North America but forts? There are lots of ancient structures that should be considered. Ex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montezuma_Castle_National_Monu...

I'm moderately disappointed that Fort Point in San Francisco isn't listed.

Things like Fort Dearborn in Chicago are listed, but all that remains is markers of the perimeter... while Fort Point is a structure that you can visit and walk around.

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