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ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Post by imglorp »

Varelion wrote: post #39

This process has been carried out, publicly, a few times. Every time the results not only fail to support the current regime's narrative, they actively goes against it. So, the question becomes: "Who is getting kickbacks for this 'deal'?" More importantly, how in the hell it this under the purview of ICE? Agencies and units have strictly outlined mission statements they are not supposed to go outside of. What kind of…

They are trying to confuse voter fraud with election fraud so they can justify ICE election interference in November.

There are only a small handful of voter fraud cases per year: someone tried to vote for a dead relative or whatever. Never enough to change an outcome. https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/how-many-cases-of-...

On the other hand, potentially far more impactful is election fraud and election interference. Tampering with voting machines (Coffee GA, Tina Peters etc), paying voters (Musk in PA), asking a state to "find more votes" (GA), ...

Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Post by cucumber3732842 »

hightrix wrote: post #40
sixothree wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the fraud perpetrated here will be this administration denying people their right to vote?

My guess is the fraud they are looking for vs the fraud they find will not at all be related. If they find the fraud at all, it will be entirely the current administration at fault.

My bet is that they'll find a few jurisdictions where the voting rolls or other paperwork were altered in a way that runs afoul of some reconstruction era laws. The root cause will likely ultimately be metric gaming. They'll find a few more people from Chicago, New Jersey and the other "usual" places who did "real fraud", likely at the local and party primary level and immaterial to federal elections. This is technically election fraud, not voter fraud, but that won't matter. They'll flamboyantly prosecute everyone they can, maybe for a dozen total, and declare it a success before moving on to the next shiny distraction

Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Post by Trasmatta »

flumpcakes wrote: post #11

US politics is cooked. I wonder if polymarket will start taking bets on mid-terms being canceled.

There's no mechanism that could possibly cancel the mid-terms. What we should worry about is the election being interfered with, and swayed by intimidation and disinformation, NOT being cancelled.

Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Post by prmoustache »

Varelion wrote: post #39

This process has been carried out, publicly, a few times. Every time the results not only fail to support the current regime's narrative, they actively goes against it. So, the question becomes: "Who is getting kickbacks for this 'deal'?" More importantly, how in the hell it this under the purview of ICE? Agencies and units have strictly outlined mission statements they are not supposed to go outside of. What kind of…

In a world where most people blindly accept answers from machines and never care to verify from actual sources the simple announcement effect followed by lies and accusations of fraud relayed repeatedly is enough. The whole mode of operations of extreme rights all over the world is to repeat lies ad nauseam until people unconsciously surrender and accept them as facts.

Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Post by wat10000 »

gcanyon wrote: post #61
moate wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you wonder that: https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-2026-midterm-elections... Of course they are.

Wow, 97% that there will be elections. That's high, but if you handed me a gun with a 3% chance of being loaded and offered me a billion dollars to point it at my head and pull the trigger, I would not. My foot on the other hand...

I don't think it's high at all. Elections are required for almost any legitimate government these days. Russia has elections. China has elections. North Korea has elections. The question is not whether there will be elections, but whether they will be free and fair.

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Post by quickthrowman »

wat10000 wrote: post #16
epistasis wrote: post #9

This is shocking and scary amount government over reach, to fabricate evidence of something that everyone knows is false... We are really through the looking glass here, folks. Watch the confirmation hearings where potential appointees are asked to simply state factually who won the 2020 residential election. The amount of dissembling, avoidance, and inability to say that the emperor has no clothes..... it's just sho…

The problem is that everyone doesn't know this to be false. A substantial portion of the population "knows" it to be true.

> The problem is that everyone doesn't know this to be false. A substantial portion of the population "knows" it to be true.

If they choose to believe a histrionic liar, that’s their problem. The rest of us don’t have to entertain their credulousness and ignorance. Repeating lies doesn’t make them true, it only makes credulous people believe it. Once the aggrieved-in-chief victim of the century is out of office, the theatrics around election fraud will cease.

Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Post by kstenerud »

Varelion wrote: post #39

This process has been carried out, publicly, a few times. Every time the results not only fail to support the current regime's narrative, they actively goes against it. So, the question becomes: "Who is getting kickbacks for this 'deal'?" More importantly, how in the hell it this under the purview of ICE? Agencies and units have strictly outlined mission statements they are not supposed to go outside of. What kind of…

They don't need to prove that it's true. They just need to get it repeated enough, with some officialdom thrown in, for it to enter the public consciousness as "true".

The next step is to go dark on data about ICE, immigration, and voter fraud so that nobody can prove the opposite anymore.

This is a very old playbook, and it works extremely well.

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