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Re: Kimi Work

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Post by marginalia_nu »

zkmon wrote: post #214
wxw wrote: post #80

> Kimi Work is a Local Agent designed for deep workflows. It mounts your local folders, navigates the web autonomously via WebBridge, runs Python code in the background, and executes scheduled tasks. It's clearly a dupe of Claude/Codex products (Codex especially, styling-wise), but I think Kimi's goal here is simply to appear on feature-parity with bigger labs. I doubt they'd want to invest much into designing a UI f…

I think we need to stop using the term "dupe" as if there was some originality somewhere that was not built upon or copied what already existed.

Taking inspiration is one thing, this is just a knock-off. The visual language is nearly identical. The difference is in whether you are building upon something else, or just copying it wholesale and contributing nothing of your own.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by geniium »

QuantumGood wrote: post #270
zkmon wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we need to stop using the term "dupe" as if there was some originality somewhere that was not built upon or copied what already existed.

"Good artists copy, great artists steal, the best artists make lies seem true." – Steve Jobs. Actually, Jobs self-servingly refactored then misattributed to Picasso the line, "Good artists copy, great artists steal." Jobs did seem to properly remarket Picasso's intent, though, as Picasso had said: "When there's anything to steal, I steal." "What does it mean, an artist copies? It is normal. The important thing is to…

Thanks for making me smile

I love that quote and like to share it often with people around me

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by crazybonkersai »

sixtyj wrote: post #135
Havoc wrote: post #132

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I'd prefer it uncensored too but this objection was insightful in 2023. Everyone and their dog knows they're censored on topics sensitive to their country, much like western models are censored for western woke sensitivities. Nobody cares anymore as long as the reasoning is good and the price is low

Yes, “Nobody cares” is what scares me. If we don't care about the other person than who we are? On the other side, I am not a woke optimist that everything on Earth is lit by Sun…

Do you really care about events 30 years ago that were blown out of proportions? Right now US is waging an unprovoked war of aggression against Iran, killing civillians every single day and deliberately destroying civilian infrastructure (like bombing universities). Yet there is zero condemnation or any real action from any Western states. All the major media outlets downplay war crimes committed by the US forces and American llms just copy the narrative of the western media.

And yet you treat a 30 years old event like it would be the most pressing problem at the moment.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by goolz »

QuantumGood wrote: post #270
zkmon wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we need to stop using the term "dupe" as if there was some originality somewhere that was not built upon or copied what already existed.

"Good artists copy, great artists steal, the best artists make lies seem true." – Steve Jobs. Actually, Jobs self-servingly refactored then misattributed to Picasso the line, "Good artists copy, great artists steal." Jobs did seem to properly remarket Picasso's intent, though, as Picasso had said: "When there's anything to steal, I steal." "What does it mean, an artist copies? It is normal. The important thing is to…

That last line is wonderful! Thank you for this man. I honestly like the original more despite it's wordiness.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by QuantumGood »

geniium wrote: post #282
QuantumGood wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Good artists copy, great artists steal, the best artists make lies seem true." – Steve Jobs. Actually, Jobs self-servingly refactored then misattributed to Picasso the line, "Good artists copy, great artists steal." Jobs did seem to properly remarket Picasso's intent, though, as Picasso had said: "When there's anything to steal, I steal." "What does it mean, an artist copies? It is normal. The important thing is to…

Thanks for making me smile I love that quote and like to share it often with people around me

Love the AI format with obvious misunderstanding to this and all your other comments; makes it much easier to find AI bots like yourself.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by nonethewiser »

zkmon wrote: post #214
wxw wrote: post #80

> Kimi Work is a Local Agent designed for deep workflows. It mounts your local folders, navigates the web autonomously via WebBridge, runs Python code in the background, and executes scheduled tasks. It's clearly a dupe of Claude/Codex products (Codex especially, styling-wise), but I think Kimi's goal here is simply to appear on feature-parity with bigger labs. I doubt they'd want to invest much into designing a UI f…

I think we need to stop using the term "dupe" as if there was some originality somewhere that was not built upon or copied what already existed.

Please explain where frontier models were copied from. Have LLMs always existed?

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by chrisss395 »

Has anyone tried this for things like Excel models and PowerPoints? And any reactions to how it compares to Claude?

I’ve seen lots of flashy examples, but a lot of knowledge work is not this, and more synthesis of sources and information in to structured content.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by all2 »

goolz wrote: post #284
QuantumGood wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Good artists copy, great artists steal, the best artists make lies seem true." – Steve Jobs. Actually, Jobs self-servingly refactored then misattributed to Picasso the line, "Good artists copy, great artists steal." Jobs did seem to properly remarket Picasso's intent, though, as Picasso had said: "When there's anything to steal, I steal." "What does it mean, an artist copies? It is normal. The important thing is to…

That last line is wonderful! Thank you for this man. I honestly like the original more despite it's wordiness.

This makes me think of John Williams, an artist of great renown known for things like the Raiders of the Lost Ark OST and the Star Wars OSTs.

All of his stuff (or most of it) is repurposed and refitted chunks of other classical works. The beautiful part is, he does it so well.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by smallmancontrov »

Gigachad wrote: post #236
CookieCrisp wrote: post #160

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I highly recommend to anyone that uses them a lot - try to clone your own. I’ve got mine fully formed into how I want it, with features I haven’t seen anywhere else yet and with integration into everything I work with. We’ve lived in a world where every app had to fit enough people well enough - but now we live in a world where an app can be molded to be absolutely perfect for just you!

Most people don’t want to play product manager and just want to pay someone to make the decisions for them. We used to have a time where every small business had its own custom accounting software, and discovered that these businesses aren’t actually special snowflakes and are better off just using the generic software and conforming to whatever it does

They were better off because the discomfort of shoehorning was less than the discomfort of in-house software development. The latter has changed radically so the conclusion may no longer hold. SWEs would do well to have at least one side project to calibrate their intuition about the cost of delivering and maintaining a greenfield project so that they can spot the niches which have begun to appear even as others live on borrowed time.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by wtfHN26 »

massysett wrote: post #179
wtfHN26 wrote: post #170

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> China cloned Amazon and Meta fairly well (but only within their local/captured markets) Americans order Chinese products from SHEIN and Aliexpress type websites. So China did penetrate the US ecommerce market, but they are not taking on Amazon directly. People are buying from the Chinese and reselling on Amazon, which has a good logistics network that Chinese companies can't possibly build in the USA. > absolutely…

“You need to look up Oneplus to see how many people were using their devices till they announced exit from Western markets.” The final part of this sentence shows why there is absolutely no need to look up Oneplus.

Seems like you are not aware of the situation.

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