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China’s open-weights AI strategy is winning

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Re: China’s open-weights AI strategy is winning

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i didn’t use the chinese models yet, but aren’t people worried of the biased knowledge they might have since they’re somehow controlled by the ccp? what could go wrong? the ccp probably thinking hard on how they can leverage this?

That's only one factor of what people are worried about.

Re: China’s open-weights AI strategy is winning

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> 10-15 years? The current rate is closer to 10-15 months. The leaps between models have gotten smaller and smaller. 2023-2024 models were rocketing up in quality. 2024-2025 I’d say was pretty impressive too. But 2025-2026? Very easy to feel the slowing pace of improvement. I agree 10-15 years is overly conservative but 10-15mo is far too bullish.

The speed of model releases, in my view, is actually getting faster and faster. There were nearly nine months between GPT-3.5 and GPT-4. And now in just over one month, major models already included Claude Fable 5, Claude Sonnet 5, the GPT-5.6 series, Kimi K3, GLM 5.2, Qwen 3.8 Max, Grok 4.5... and the official DeepSeek V4 release is coming soon. Iteration speed is now measured in days.

Model release =/= meaningful improvement. GPT 3.5->4 was monumental.

Re: China’s open-weights AI strategy is winning

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> The problem (right now) is that Open Weight models depend right now on huge companies to spend billion of dollars to train and develop them, all backed up by their incentives and their state to support this, while essentially giving away their monetization path. Right... and there are two problems with this: 1. Eventually the capabilities of closed-weight models will just vastly outstrip open-weight models if the u…

> Open-source software isn't a moral good Yes it is.

is open-source malware a moral good?

Re: China’s open-weights AI strategy is winning

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Why would you go from audiobook to text? Is there no epub available?

Not without DRM. It was easier to buy the audiobooks and use the analog loophole to get text. It's probably less accurate, but for what I'm doing it was fine. Names were the worst, but whisper at least made the same mistake each time so a simple search+replace handled most of the obvious edge cases.

Huh, in my experience audiobooks are more expensive and/or harder to find than ebooks. Out of curiosity, can you give an example of one such audiobook you transcribed?

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Why do people always bring up state support when it comes to China? As if the U.S. doesn't provide massive tax breaks and explicit funding to industry? It's on every tech post about China, as if it gives them some sort of "unfair" advantage.

Because the scale of the subsidization is unimaginably different.

Are you saying that publicly funded fundamental research is somehow a bad thing now?

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> god-like So would you say we are months away from full self-driving cars that can out-drive a human being in any situation?

Remember, these cars are running local LLMs, not frontier models. The issue with self-driving cars has been the edge cases. The 0.0001% of situations where the models did not have sufficient training data. This is compounded by the hardware limitations. Onboard RAM in a typical Tesla on the road is 16GB (+16GB for the backup computer). This has to run the existing onboard OS and other operations plus the LLM. These t…

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They resisted the idea because it did kill their legacy business. Kodaks peak was 16 billion in revenue in 1996. The digital camera market will be approaching that level of value inflation adjusted around 2030. 35 years to get back to status quo. Putting a bullet in a golden goose is often considered a bad idea. Everyone is happy they are dead, but if you can't understand why they might try to keep the corpse alive y…

The digital camera market will be approaching that level of value inflation adjusted around 2030. Only if you ignore the digital camera sector responsible for probably 99% of all digital photos taken…

You make money on the sensor, not the photo. The sensor is basically a commodity at this point. Expecting a chemical company to become a software company aka Apple in the US investing environment is pretty funny to me.

The CEO would likely have been shot or arrested.

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The data center business is selling Tensor core GPU's which are used for Large language models nearly exclusively. I don't think of them as GPU's anymore considering a GPU is a graphics processing unit and this is not the primary function of those cards anymore. A GPU will always be a card you put in your computer to play a game in my mind. I know a tomato is a fruit but will still be annoyed when someone is pedantic…

Talking about their product segments the same way they do is not being pedantic. Insisting on your personal definition is!

You sound like someone who believes online betting markets aren’t gambling because the company says so. Cryptocurrency is commonly used for personal transactions.

You might not ever admit your argument is dumb but tomatoes are fruit is stupid.

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