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ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Post by luxuryballs »

wat10000 wrote: post #16
epistasis wrote: post #9

This is shocking and scary amount government over reach, to fabricate evidence of something that everyone knows is false... We are really through the looking glass here, folks. Watch the confirmation hearings where potential appointees are asked to simply state factually who won the 2020 residential election. The amount of dissembling, avoidance, and inability to say that the emperor has no clothes..... it's just sho…

The problem is that everyone doesn't know this to be false. A substantial portion of the population "knows" it to be true.

The problem is that if you look with an inquisitive eye without having a preference on the outcome there's no way to tell because of the margins in just a few districts, all that is sure is that the Constitution was followed and the valid electors chose the President (which is a major reason why it is designed that way).

Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Post by goodluckchuck »

njovin wrote: post #8

If you're a California resident, under the CCPA you can submit a request for Thomson Reuters to both provide you with and then delete any information they have collected about you. The state's even setup a nice portal to automate these requests across 600+ data brokers. https://privacy.ca.gov/drop/

Since they are working for the Federal government here, doesn’t the supremacy clause trump state law and allow them to deny / retain that data?

Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Post by goolz »

sanex wrote: post #7

Pretty sure you're supposed to get a warrant to access private information. I don't know how we ended up in this place where somehow paying for info precludes the necessity to get a warrant a la flock, cell tower data, etc.

I do. Citizens United. It is a pay-to-play system we have going on here and it is working exactly as designed. Bribery? Why no, that is simply a donation. With enough money and moral bankruptcy you can accomplish all sorts of silly things that are in direct violation of the constitution, the law, and even common decency.

Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Post by nozzlegear »

ceejayoz wrote: post #25
thomascgalvin wrote: post #17

Ah yes, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, that famous election security wing of the US Government

We called them Sturmabteilung in the original German.

> Sturmabteilung: German, literally 'storm division.' A German Nazi paramilitary force formed in 1921, whose members were known in English as Brownshirts.

The ICE comparison is spot on, IMO.

Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

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Post by fhdkweig »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #30
wat10000 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The government never needs a warrant merely to ask for info, and a private entity doesn't need a warrant to voluntarily hand over info that they have. If we had decent privacy protections then a private entity couldn't decide to just hand over whatever data they have on others, but, well, we don't.

Increasingly it's becoming necessary to disclose data to private entities just to survive and live a reasonable approximation of a normal life. Why have constitutional protection against search if in practice nothing can be shielded from such searches?

Every once in a while a company will publicly push back on such requests, but I feel it is getting rarer. Public libraries are a good example of places that still care about privacy, but companies that have to worry about going out of business because of a heavy-handed government tend to cave easily.
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