Pelicans for 3.6 Flash and 3.5 Flash-Lite (Cyber isn't available to me through the API yet.)
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Gemini 3.6 Flash, 3.5 Flash-Lite, and 3.5 Flash Cyber
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Re: Gemini 3.6 Flash, 3.5 Flash-Lite, and 3.5 Flash Cyber
#72I'm going to get downvoted/flagged but I feel like we need a new type of "Show HN/Tell HN" etc for "New AI Model Available". Front page is tedious these days.
If you refresh the Home page, once a day. The top post will likely be 'New AI Model Available '
Re: Gemini 3.6 Flash, 3.5 Flash-Lite, and 3.5 Flash Cyber
#732 red flags 1- no comparison with gemini 3.1 pro 2- no comparison with any other model
The model card has comparisons with both 3.1 Pro and other models:
https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/Model-Cards/Ge...
Re: Gemini 3.6 Flash, 3.5 Flash-Lite, and 3.5 Flash Cyber
#743.6 Flash scores exactly the same as 3.5 Flash on the Artificial Analysis index. Better on some tasks, worse on others. Mostly within what I'd consider the noise window. Looks pretty much indistinguishable from 3.5 Flash, at least on these benchmarks: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/gemini-3-6-flash
Re: Gemini 3.6 Flash, 3.5 Flash-Lite, and 3.5 Flash Cyber
#75A couple tidbits: > Beyond today’s releases, Gemini 3.5 Pro is currently testing with partners and we plan to make it broadly available as soon as it’s ready. > We have started our most ambitious pre-training run yet, for Gemini 4, and are excited by the progress.
I guess they meant to release Gemini 3.5 Pro shortly after 3.5 Flash, but then Mythos/Fable and later GPT-5.6 came out with higher performance than 3.5 Pro, so the managers decided not to release it.
Re: Gemini 3.6 Flash, 3.5 Flash-Lite, and 3.5 Flash Cyber
#76Re: Gemini 3.6 Flash, 3.5 Flash-Lite, and 3.5 Flash Cyber
#77The silence is deafening. Google watches over the last few months a flat out assault on the Pareto curve from American and Chinese companies. Release after release pushing the boundaries of frontier intelligence and price/performance. And the response from arguably the biggest AI research labs in the world by headcount is Flash 3.6. What do you do when you are given essentially unlimited resources and still find your…
Start your own openrouter.
Re: Gemini 3.6 Flash, 3.5 Flash-Lite, and 3.5 Flash Cyber
#78I think it’s safe to say Google seems a bit out of the top AI competition now. The “cyber” stuff also starts to become laughable with open models providing the full power without the crap Anthropic, Google, OpenAI are trying to frontload on you(I.e you are not allowed to develop/review a login system, pay a special cyber operation team to do it for you). They really deserve to become irrelevant in the future of AI.
Re: Gemini 3.6 Flash, 3.5 Flash-Lite, and 3.5 Flash Cyber
#79Pelicans for 3.6 Flash and 3.5 Flash-Lite (Cyber isn't available to me through the API yet.) https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer#url=ht...
I am growing tired of these pelicans posts every time a new model is published. Feels to me like low effort personal brand promotion. Just sharing my 2 cents.
Re: Gemini 3.6 Flash, 3.5 Flash-Lite, and 3.5 Flash Cyber
#80It's scary relying on Google's models. I have a very price sensitive workload that used to run on flash 2.5 lite - it's deprecated now. The replacement 3.1 flash lite is a lot more expensive, but now also has a sunset date. 3.5 flash lite is even more expensive. So the price is rising and you have no choice but to keep paying more and more.
I moved directly from 2.5 flash lite to deepseek v4 flash, its already cheaper and if your prompt caching is good you can save so much more money.