US politics is cooked. I wonder if polymarket will start taking bets on mid-terms being canceled.
ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud
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Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud
#12Pretty sure you're supposed to get a warrant to access private information. I don't know how we ended up in this place where somehow paying for info precludes the necessity to get a warrant a la flock, cell tower data, etc.
The legal argument is that we gave this data "voluntarily" to the data broker so the government no longer needs a warrant.
This is an area that desperately needs new laws to catch up to the reality of what is going on, but I don't really see much motion toward that goal in the near future.
Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud
#13Pretty sure you're supposed to get a warrant to access private information. I don't know how we ended up in this place where somehow paying for info precludes the necessity to get a warrant a la flock, cell tower data, etc.
Third-party doctrine.
Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud
#14Pretty sure you're supposed to get a warrant to access private information. I don't know how we ended up in this place where somehow paying for info precludes the necessity to get a warrant a la flock, cell tower data, etc.
sure as if laws apply anymore. who enforces any of this when the DOJ is run by the president's personal lawyer?
Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud
#15Pretty sure you're supposed to get a warrant to access private information. I don't know how we ended up in this place where somehow paying for info precludes the necessity to get a warrant a la flock, cell tower data, etc.
The legal argument is that we gave this data "voluntarily" to the data broker so the government no longer needs a warrant. This is an area that desperately needs new laws to catch up to the reality of what is going on, but I don't really see much motion toward that goal in the near future.
The government never needs a warrant merely to ask for info, and a private entity doesn't need a warrant to voluntarily hand over info that they have. If we had decent privacy protections then a private entity couldn't decide to just hand over whatever data they have on others, but, well, we don't.
Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud
#16This is shocking and scary amount government over reach, to fabricate evidence of something that everyone knows is false... We are really through the looking glass here, folks. Watch the confirmation hearings where potential appointees are asked to simply state factually who won the 2020 residential election. The amount of dissembling, avoidance, and inability to say that the emperor has no clothes..... it's just sho…
The problem is that everyone doesn't know this to be false. A substantial portion of the population "knows" it to be true.
Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud
#17Ah yes, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, that famous election security wing of the US Government
Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud
#18https://archive.is/2L3sU
More information:
Target Data Collected
According to procurement records initially reviewed by 404 Media, the system allows continuous monitoring of the following personal data points: [1]
Names and addresses
Social Security numbers
Ethnicities
Geolocation information
Social media activity [1]
https://www.change.org/p/demand-thomson-reuters-cancel-its-1...
Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud
#19I reckon that if you replace "find" with "make", you might be closer to the truth about what this data will be used for.
The boring truth is they’ll find nothing and the admin will pretend it never even looked. They’ve done this already with all the “very real and provable voter fraud” they investigated in previous elections. All the initiatives quietly disbanded after saying they found nothing.
They can’t even say they’ve found evidence when pressed https://newrepublic.com/post/213185/trump-election-fraud-guy...
Re: ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud
#20This is shocking and scary amount government over reach, to fabricate evidence of something that everyone knows is false... We are really through the looking glass here, folks. Watch the confirmation hearings where potential appointees are asked to simply state factually who won the 2020 residential election. The amount of dissembling, avoidance, and inability to say that the emperor has no clothes..... it's just sho…
The problem is that everyone doesn't know this to be false. A substantial portion of the population "knows" it to be true.
Agree. Signs and flags around my neighborhood after 2020, "Trump won, you know it and I know it".
ETA: Why the downvotes? It's true, and I have photos of the signs. These people exist.