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Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by FatherOfCurses »

pudgywalsh wrote: post #54
RAM-bunctious wrote: post #33

Great that it's peaceful. Jellyfin is an amazing project, and works almost exactly how I want it to. By listing and playing my media without autoplaying trailers and other such stuff. I imagine many here who've never tried it will be of the same mindset

It's not amazing, it's as good as it is. Which is to say not great. There is a crazy amount of bugs which I have no confidence will ever get fixed. If you're the type that enjoys tinkering with obscure Linux settings for hours on end, which are certain to break if you dare to update anything, it may be for you.

I'm sorry that you have had a bad experience.

I have been running Jellyfin in a container on a Linux server for three years now. I am streaming video to Infuse on three Apple TV boxes and music to a Kodi installation on a Raspberry Pi with no issues.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by thiht »

zeratax wrote: post #254
thiht wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Plex because the whole experience looks and feels more polished than Jellyfin (that’s personal but even the name Jellyfin irks me, I hate jellyfish), which is something I value more than openness. Also I bought the Plex lifetime a few years ago during Covid and at that time Jellyfin was nowhere near Plex in terms of user friendliness, Plex already had a TV app, a mobile app with ability to download locally, a f…

every jellyfin app nowadays not only has downloads, but unlike plex it even works relialby

It works reliably with Plex too, I use it every time I travel or take the train, not sure useless taunts are necessary here.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by thiht »

Hikikomori wrote: post #196
thiht wrote: post #193

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I use Plex because the whole experience looks and feels more polished than Jellyfin (that’s personal but even the name Jellyfin irks me, I hate jellyfish), which is something I value more than openness. Also I bought the Plex lifetime a few years ago during Covid and at that time Jellyfin was nowhere near Plex in terms of user friendliness, Plex already had a TV app, a mobile app with ability to download locally, a f…

Would you pay the $700 today as well? Jellyfin has all those features now. Sharing servers is harder as you don't have centralized account mgmt, but you can use wizarr to make it simpler.

I would not pay $700 indeed.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by phil21 »

fg137 wrote: post #204
freetime2 wrote: post #180

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According to this Forbes article [1], Plex earns the majority of their revenue from selling ads in their streaming platform: > Valory said that Plex, which currently does not disclose financial information, generates roughly 20 percent of its revenues from member subscriptions, which unlock premium capabilities of its media platform, compared to 80 percent from the ad business. So possibly they are just trying to ext…

I have seen people talking about this "hosting a small streaming service for friends" thing, and I really have trouble understanding that. It just seems a bad idea to expose such a server to the Internet and maintain it, even with a VPN, and I don't know what kind of friends they have. That's a lot of effort for very questionable return, considering the requirements for your hard drive space, bandwidth, the time it t…

> It just seems a bad idea to expose such a server to the Internet and maintain it

Why? Nerds have been hosting services for their friends and family for decades now. It was one of the primary benefits of knowing an IT nerd. They probably had a few servers co-located at work or with their friend who worked for the local ISP. These days with cloud I suppose it's changed, but I didn't think this skillset had eroded that much.

Hosting services on the public internet isn't very scary. If your Plex server gets zero day'ed, you just reinstall it and start over. Chances are that will never happen.

I host the media server, you come help me fix my plumbing when I need it sort of thing.

> That's a lot of effort for very questionable return, considering the requirements for your hard drive space, bandwidth, the time it takes to curate your library including "acquisition" and pruning etc.

This part, sure. But it's like anything else you do for family and friends. When I ran an e-mail server for everyone it was a giant pain that eventually became not worth it once the free providers got better and more accessible.

Plus the whole "curating" thing is the fun part, usually! Most of that stuff is usually about 98% automated either way so the "job" is largely fixing automation when it chokes.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by macintux »

criddell wrote: post #247
bityard wrote: post #206

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I wonder if we are starting to see a generational gap in how we consume media. When I was growing up, there was no "media experience," you just turned on the TV, selected your channel, and there was your show. Or your turned on the TV, pushed the VHS tape into the VCR, and your movie started playing. Every once in a while I start looking into things like jellyfin and after a few hours poking around, eventually start…

> you just turned on the TV, selected your channel, and there was your show You've just described the media experience. When I was a kid I spent so much time just flipping through channels. The same activity today is a vastly different and inferior experience. Modern televisions take forever to change channels.

It seems like all home technology adds friction and inscrutable failure modes in order to gain functionality/flexibility.

"Smart" seems to mean "powerful but complicated and frustrating."

I get the functionality benefits. I just don't want to pay the friction price.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by [deleted] »

xrox wrote: post #35

The three founders are all great people, but there is a gatekeeping issue within the project (I'm heavily involved, so this is a throwaway account). The constant mocking accusations and hostility toward third-party clients, plugins, themes, and other tools have made Jellyfin's official spaces unbearable. The atmosphere often revolves around the opinions of a small group of people, and anything that falls outside thei…

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Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by port11 »

sgc wrote: post #50
NichoPaolucci wrote: post #38

I’m surprised people reach for plex, not sure what I’m missing - but a Jellyfin container set up has been fantastic for strictly at home usage (running on an old gaming PC). It’s fantastic software - the cross platform applications are pretty useable. Don’t think we’ve even had any major issues over the last 4 years using it. Many thanks to the builders and maintainers, hopefully Andrew can take some rest and know th…

I have a problem that it constantly tries to re-encode video that could be played perfectly fine in their player or the mpv shim. I wound up just mounting my remote drives and playing in my local mpv. I don't really use it because of that. Unfortunate because otherwise I love a lot of things about it.

You can check why it’s re-encoding, there’s some guides out there. In my case it was the subtitles! Turns out Safari can’t handle all types of subtitles. Might be worth looking into it.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by port11 »

zeagle wrote: post #80
pudgywalsh wrote: post #54

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It's not amazing, it's as good as it is. Which is to say not great. There is a crazy amount of bugs which I have no confidence will ever get fixed. If you're the type that enjoys tinkering with obscure Linux settings for hours on end, which are certain to break if you dare to update anything, it may be for you.

I have no conflict of interest and feel bad for you if you've wasted time on it, but for anyone else who is considering trying it I have literally have had no issues with mine including setting up nvidia hw transcoding on a debian nas. Only thing I can think of is briefly the android tv client lagged on a major version RC so was incompatible till it updated on my box. I have to check the change log sometimes because…

Setting HW-encoding is a tad complicated indeed, it’s hard to debug WHY it’s not working. But once you have it, you’re good. Jellyfin has been rock solid for us in 2 years since we ditched Netflix and Prime Video.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by TiredOfLife »

noisy_boy wrote: post #273
TiredOfLife wrote: post #187

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5 years ago when i bought an LG OLED tv and finally decided to move from SAMBA/Apache/plain files I tried first Jellyfin, but 1. Jellyfin up to to a year or two ago didn't have WebOS client. 2. Jellyfin android client is (was?) just the webclient - so no video or audio codec support. 3. Server ran very poorly on my raspberry pi so I went with Plex and am still using Plex

I run Jellyfin on Raspberry pi and access it with Android app. The main issues I have with the app are: 1. Subtitle management is a total pain. Sometimes it doesn't show any subtitle toggle, sometimes it does. There isn't an option to switch between different subtitles. Adding an external subtitle file on the fly via the app never works for me. One approach that almost always works is to download the subtitle file, r…

I also didn't pay a dime for Plex

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by cpburns2009 »

FatherOfCurses wrote: post #291
pudgywalsh wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not amazing, it's as good as it is. Which is to say not great. There is a crazy amount of bugs which I have no confidence will ever get fixed. If you're the type that enjoys tinkering with obscure Linux settings for hours on end, which are certain to break if you dare to update anything, it may be for you.

I'm sorry that you have had a bad experience. I have been running Jellyfin in a container on a Linux server for three years now. I am streaming video to Infuse on three Apple TV boxes and music to a Kodi installation on a Raspberry Pi with no issues.

I'm been running Jellyfin in a container as well for 4 years. I stream to a couple Roku devices. The only problem I've encountered is Roku doesn't support DVDSUB and Jellyfin recently added automatic overlaying of DVDSUB server-side which drastically slows down seeking on Roku.
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