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Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by _superposition_ »

jorvi wrote: post #201
freetime2 wrote: post #9

Recently Plex increased the cost of a new Lifetime Plex Pass to $750 [1]. It seems like they really want to get most users paying recurring monthly or annual fees. But to me at least that kind of goes against the whole purpose of hosting my own media library. Thank you to everyone who has contributed to Jellyfin for offering an alternative! [1] https://www.plex.tv/blog/new-lifetime-plex-pass-pricing/

My biggest beef with Plex is that they've pivoted away from being a media server first and are trying to change into a streaming platform first, and because managers inside the company have to show KPI, they're stuffing the streaming buttons and sections and recommendations in everywhere. Really frustrating because the media server experience is still by far the best. It really needs to have a "classic" toggle where…

The only good thing about this in my setup is I can add shows/movies to my watchlist from their advertisements and it gets picked up by my arr stack.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by theshrike79 »

ssl-3 wrote: post #224
theshrike79 wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lifetime model isn't sustainable, that's why they're pricing it out.

It had been sustained for something like 14 years, though?

Yep, but there’s a limit to everything.

At some point you hit market saturation and the forever users are just costing you money and new user acquisition isn’t enough to offset it.

Nobody likes the subscription model but it’s the easiest way to sustain constant development bigger than side hustle projects.

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Post by zeratax »

thiht wrote: post #193
NichoPaolucci wrote: post #38

I’m surprised people reach for plex, not sure what I’m missing - but a Jellyfin container set up has been fantastic for strictly at home usage (running on an old gaming PC). It’s fantastic software - the cross platform applications are pretty useable. Don’t think we’ve even had any major issues over the last 4 years using it. Many thanks to the builders and maintainers, hopefully Andrew can take some rest and know th…

I use Plex because the whole experience looks and feels more polished than Jellyfin (that’s personal but even the name Jellyfin irks me, I hate jellyfish), which is something I value more than openness. Also I bought the Plex lifetime a few years ago during Covid and at that time Jellyfin was nowhere near Plex in terms of user friendliness, Plex already had a TV app, a mobile app with ability to download locally, a f…

every jellyfin app nowadays not only has downloads, but unlike plex it even works relialby

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Post by hgoel »

ssl-3 wrote: post #224
theshrike79 wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lifetime model isn't sustainable, that's why they're pricing it out.

It had been sustained for something like 14 years, though?

It isn't sustainable in the context of their desire to pivot to being a streaming service, along with their desire to blow resources on repeatedly redesigning the apps to make the UI slower and buggier.

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Post by petepete »

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #67
pudgywalsh wrote: post #54

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It's not amazing, it's as good as it is. Which is to say not great. There is a crazy amount of bugs which I have no confidence will ever get fixed. If you're the type that enjoys tinkering with obscure Linux settings for hours on end, which are certain to break if you dare to update anything, it may be for you.

> There is a crazy amount of bugs which I have no confidence will ever get fixed. Like what honestly I've been running one for years and have had nearly zero issues.

I've used Jellyfin for years and my experience is currently incredibly smooth and works like a dream for the whole family.

I only use it for movies and TV shows though, the live TV experience (with a HDHomeRun) was incredibly buggy and slow, and once you've tried it and failed, it seems like it's impossible to remove the remnants of it from your interface.

The music and audiobook support never felt like it was as polished as TV/movies either, so I gave up on that.

Now I use:

* Jellyfin for films/TV shows

* Channels for live TV

* Navidrome for music

* Audioookshelf for audiobooks and podcasts

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by jasonlotito »

NichoPaolucci wrote: post #38

I’m surprised people reach for plex, not sure what I’m missing - but a Jellyfin container set up has been fantastic for strictly at home usage (running on an old gaming PC). It’s fantastic software - the cross platform applications are pretty useable. Don’t think we’ve even had any major issues over the last 4 years using it. Many thanks to the builders and maintainers, hopefully Andrew can take some rest and know th…

> I'm surprised people reach for plex

I have a lifetime subscription from 2016. All my friends have Plex, too. It works. We share. Ezpz.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by thaumasiotes »

cyberrock wrote: post #199
tick_tock_tick wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never tried it for audiobooks frankly didn't even know it supported them. > Let me provide a per-folder template for extracting season / episode information. That's frankly not what I would call a bug and a bunch of work for near zero benefit. Not to be mean but why do you care? and if it really bothers you just use hardlinks let jellyfin see what it needs and you can have your pretty version for youself.

I really dislike this paradigm that the user needs to become a human DBMS, and rename/link files or write template rules for the media server to understand. It was understandable back in XBMC days but it just feels silly now. Surely it can extract some Musicbrainz-like fingerprint from the media instead of only relying on filename. But the truly disgusting part is how XBMC/Kodi/Plex/Jellyfin just reassigns the files…

For a related issue, Kim Possible was aired out of order, leading to various problems if you watch the episodes in the order they were aired. I am given to understand this is fairly common for older TV shows.

Jellyfin has major problems dealing with this common situation. To Jellyfin, the source of truth is imdb. Imdb numbers Kim Possible episodes in the order they were aired. If you want the metadata that jellyfin scrapes from imdb, and you also want to watch the episodes in an appropriate order, you have to do this:

1. Number all of the episodes in airing order.

2. Ask Jellyfin to fetch the metadata.

3. Renumber the episodes into the correct order.

4. Remember never to ask Jellyfin to scan any directory that contains those episodes again.

If you mess up, Jellyfin will attach descriptions and preview images to every file that aren't, technically, related to the episode in that file.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by tclancy »

NichoPaolucci wrote: post #28
tclancy wrote: post #19

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Yeah the arr stack plus seer. It all feels like cheating. Which it is.

Definitely cheating. I’ve taught my mostly-non-technical gf how to to load up sonarr and add something to the library. Anything we can do to avoid the hodgepodge of 8 different streaming services and rotating availability…

Add seer and you don’t have to teach anyone. I even get a ntfy notification when requests are made and fulfilled.
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