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Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by jorvi »

freetime2 wrote: post #9

Recently Plex increased the cost of a new Lifetime Plex Pass to $750 [1]. It seems like they really want to get most users paying recurring monthly or annual fees. But to me at least that kind of goes against the whole purpose of hosting my own media library. Thank you to everyone who has contributed to Jellyfin for offering an alternative! [1] https://www.plex.tv/blog/new-lifetime-plex-pass-pricing/

My biggest beef with Plex is that they've pivoted away from being a media server first and are trying to change into a streaming platform first, and because managers inside the company have to show KPI, they're stuffing the streaming buttons and sections and recommendations in everywhere.

Really frustrating because the media server experience is still by far the best.

It really needs to have a "classic" toggle where all the streaming crap is disabled.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by wccrawford »

4ggr0 wrote: post #175
radcod3 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jellyfin can support intro/outro skipping as well with a plugin. https://github.com/intro-skipper/intro-skipper

i've used this plugin a lot, and it is nice, but a bit hit-or-miss. it analyzes all episodes of a show to start seeing a pattern in the beginning of shows, or checks chapters which my files rarely had. works well for most shows, but if a show has unique intros for every episode, it doesn't really work. also had trouble with 100% consistent intros, but i never really figured out why that happened. kind of a 50% soluti…

That sounds like what I see with Plex, too. It definitely doesn't get it when the intros are unique. And if there's something later that's the same each show (an explanation of the game show, etc) it'll target it as the intro instead.

It's good most of the time, but not 100%.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by amiga386 »

pudgywalsh wrote: post #54
RAM-bunctious wrote: post #33

Great that it's peaceful. Jellyfin is an amazing project, and works almost exactly how I want it to. By listing and playing my media without autoplaying trailers and other such stuff. I imagine many here who've never tried it will be of the same mindset

It's not amazing, it's as good as it is. Which is to say not great. There is a crazy amount of bugs which I have no confidence will ever get fixed. If you're the type that enjoys tinkering with obscure Linux settings for hours on end, which are certain to break if you dare to update anything, it may be for you.

While I'd agree that the 10.11.x releases have terrible performance on some APIs to the extent that I rolled back to 10.10.x and marked it as held, until they release 12.x...

Jellyfin is a daily driver for me and works amazingly. I have thousands of films, TV shows, books, music, and it lets me navigate and use them perfectly well.

I have a wonderful little Linux media server.

What sort of bugs affect you?

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by fg137 »

freetime2 wrote: post #180
m4xp wrote: post #174

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How is that even a viable business model? I don't know a single self host person that would pay a subscription for something they are hosting

According to this Forbes article [1], Plex earns the majority of their revenue from selling ads in their streaming platform: > Valory said that Plex, which currently does not disclose financial information, generates roughly 20 percent of its revenues from member subscriptions, which unlock premium capabilities of its media platform, compared to 80 percent from the ad business. So possibly they are just trying to ext…

I have seen people talking about this "hosting a small streaming service for friends" thing, and I really have trouble understanding that. It just seems a bad idea to expose such a server to the Internet and maintain it, even with a VPN, and I don't know what kind of friends they have. That's a lot of effort for very questionable return, considering the requirements for your hard drive space, bandwidth, the time it takes to curate your library including "acquisition" and pruning etc.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by bityard »

tmountain wrote: post #152
al_borland wrote: post #45

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It lets the user browser with cover art, descriptions, trailers, sorting by release date, rating, etc. It keeps track of watched and unwatched movies. Shows what’s recently be added, recently released. Keeps track of where you’re at in a TV series, to always play the next episode. It can transcode as needed, to something like a mobile device or TV that might be more picky than VLC. Lots of quality of life improvement…

Yup, it’s a great UX and it makes the media experience feel finished, not hacky.

I wonder if we are starting to see a generational gap in how we consume media. When I was growing up, there was no "media experience," you just turned on the TV, selected your channel, and there was your show. Or your turned on the TV, pushed the VHS tape into the VCR, and your movie started playing.

Every once in a while I start looking into things like jellyfin and after a few hours poking around, eventually start to wonder if the heaviest users of these platforms enjoy the process of organizating their media and finding the perfect UI theme for that particular week _more_ than they enjoy actually sitting down and watching their shows.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by bityard »

prmoustache wrote: post #96
judge2020 wrote: post #34

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In particular the main value-add is that they have clients across so many different platforms, including most major bespoke smart TV brands[0], and their solution to streaming on WAN (HTTPS brokering) is pretty darn good for most people. Accessing my media from hotel rooms is pretty darn seamless, other than the wifi connection sometimes requiring downscaling to 720p or or so. 0: not really an issue nowadays with eve…

I guess this applies to a relatively small subset of population who are always on the riad and travelling for work. One must have a nightmare of a vacation to even consider turning on a tv in an hotel room, I can't even remember the last time an hotel TV served any other purpose than hanging a wet towel.

What I want to know is, what happened in your life that turned you into the kind of monster that destroys hotel electronics with wet towels when there are always perfectly good towel racks in the bathroom??

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by Fnoord »

theshrike79 wrote: post #161
b3lvedere wrote: post #160

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This is not a rant or an attack on you. I get the point of easyness that Plex and/or Jellyfin offer. I merely would like to explain why i do not need it. I tried both Jellyfin and Plex, but i could not find a huge benefit in using them in our household. Again, not a rant. I think it's an extra layer on top of things i do not need. I do not need cover art, descriptions or trailers. The smb shares have a folder hierarc…

> "Usually i remember what i was watching" You must not watch that many TV shows or Anime then. Or you have the memory of a savant. Without an automated system I'd have zero clue where I am in the 100+ series I'm tracking.

I still have artifacts in my dirs of TOSORT, TODO, and DONE.

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

pudgywalsh wrote: post #54
RAM-bunctious wrote: post #33

Great that it's peaceful. Jellyfin is an amazing project, and works almost exactly how I want it to. By listing and playing my media without autoplaying trailers and other such stuff. I imagine many here who've never tried it will be of the same mindset

It's not amazing, it's as good as it is. Which is to say not great. There is a crazy amount of bugs which I have no confidence will ever get fixed. If you're the type that enjoys tinkering with obscure Linux settings for hours on end, which are certain to break if you dare to update anything, it may be for you.

> If you're the type that enjoys tinkering with obscure Linux settings for hours on end, which are certain to break if you dare to update anything, it may be for you.

Can you suggest an alternative?

Re: Jellyfin founder Andrew leaves team

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Post by Fnoord »

bambax wrote: post #146
al_borland wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It lets the user browser with cover art, descriptions, trailers, sorting by release date, rating, etc. It keeps track of watched and unwatched movies. Shows what’s recently be added, recently released. Keeps track of where you’re at in a TV series, to always play the next episode. It can transcode as needed, to something like a mobile device or TV that might be more picky than VLC. Lots of quality of life improvement…

Yes. And with something like a GL.iNet travel router + Tailscale, you can watch Jellyfin from anywhere without ever exposing it to the Internet. You plug it in your hotel room, tell the hotel TV to connect to it, and voilà: Jellyfin on any random TV.

Connect a random TV to your home LAN over a VPN? No thank you! I would rather use HDMI in. You can also cache data locally. Or just watch on a smaller screen or tablet. There are a lot of jurisdictions where I would not want to take private keys or passwords with me.
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