Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I owe the bank $750,000 and can't pay, it's my problem. If I owe the bank $1,750,000,000 and can't pay, it's the bank's problem.
If the bank is owed $1,650,000,000,000 and isn't paid, then it becomes the tax payers problem apparently
Five US tech giants' hidden debts soar to $1.65T on opaque AI funding
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Re: Five US tech giants' hidden debts soar to $1.65T on opaque AI funding
#12Well technically they don’t own the debt, the SPVs that own the data centers do. The giants just have long term commitments, but if shit hits the fan, it’s not the tech giants but the banks that lent the money to the SPVs that are at risk. This usually means all of us are on the hook.
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#13Re: Five US tech giants' hidden debts soar to $1.65T on opaque AI funding
#14Well technically they don’t own the debt, the SPVs that own the data centers do. The giants just have long term commitments, but if shit hits the fan, it’s not the tech giants but the banks that lent the money to the SPVs that are at risk. This usually means all of us are on the hook.
I mean if AI falls short we might see a collapse in the price of colo but those investments would probably just be paid back over 10x the period.
Re: Five US tech giants' hidden debts soar to $1.65T on opaque AI funding
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the bank is owed $1,650,000,000,000 and isn't paid, then it becomes the tax payers problem apparently
2008 all over again, but instead of Washington Mutual and Countrywide, we have whatever the heck is going on now.
If they want the reward, they need to accept the risk when the bet doesn’t go their way. If they aren’t willing to accept that, they shouldn’t be making such big bets.
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#16On the one hand, these debts may be off the balance sheet, but institutional investors certainly know about them and can reason about the company's valuation. Retail investors may be caught out slightly more. But on the other hand, these companies are essentially paying for the service of taking the debt off books (by paying the leasing premium to the SPV partners). I guess I'm wondering what they really gain from do…
Re: Five US tech giants' hidden debts soar to $1.65T on opaque AI funding
#17These debts mean nothing if the US government actually views AI technology as being on par with the Manhattan project. They'll just bail them out or nationalise them.
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#18These debts mean nothing if the US government actually views AI technology as being on par with the Manhattan project. They'll just bail them out or nationalise them.
Re: Five US tech giants' hidden debts soar to $1.65T on opaque AI funding
#19These debts mean nothing if the US government actually views AI technology as being on par with the Manhattan project. They'll just bail them out or nationalise them.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
2008 all over again, but instead of Washington Mutual and Countrywide, we have whatever the heck is going on now.
I don’t know if the public would be as accepting of a bailout for AI companies… trillion dollar businesses that pushed technology with the goal of eliminating 50% of white collar workers… that isn’t really mission critical. If they want the reward, they need to accept the risk when the bet doesn’t go their way. If they aren’t willing to accept that, they shouldn’t be making such big bets.
That's putting it mildly, IMO.
An AI bailout would be a poison pill that would electorally doom whichever party was behind it for decades.