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Re: Kimi Work

#171

this landing page looks like a cheap ripoff of google's antigravity: https://antigravity.google/

Who cares. Competition is good for the user even if it's built on plagiarism. The other site was probably designed using an LLM anyway. LLMs can in some aspects converge wrt their outputs.

Re: Kimi Work

#172
post #113
post #85

People saying copy aren't wrong...but if you can offer a copy at 1/5th of the price then you've got a winning product not a copy

[flagged]

As opposed to Claude which has flagged:

- anything related to piracy

- legit security work (audit my infra, pentest it)

- disabling a safety mechanism on my food processor

- reverse engineering

- creating style guides inspired by other games/companies (for fan projects)

- questions about how nerve agents work and how they can be treated (for a layman)

Re: Kimi Work

#173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> duping is a great way to show people that even the app layer can be commoditized Everyone is already cloning the app layer. There are 30+ claude-code clone, and codex work already cloned cowork, grok and gemini is doing the same.

I highly recommend to anyone that uses them a lot - try to clone your own. I’ve got mine fully formed into how I want it, with features I haven’t seen anywhere else yet and with integration into everything I work with. We’ve lived in a world where every app had to fit enough people well enough - but now we live in a world where an app can be molded to be absolutely perfect for just you!

How did you build your own coding agent? What language/framework did you use?

Re: Kimi Work

#174
I'm kinda confused given that they're from China. The Chinese Internet is very different from the western Internet. The web is way smaller, and a lot of useful content is behind app-based walled ecosystems such as Wechat, Douyin and Xiaohongshu. This makes web automation much less useful. And I don't see them marketing something like Wechat automation?

Re: Kimi Work

#175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> duping is a great way to show people that even the app layer can be commoditized Everyone is already cloning the app layer. There are 30+ claude-code clone, and codex work already cloned cowork, grok and gemini is doing the same.

I highly recommend to anyone that uses them a lot - try to clone your own. I’ve got mine fully formed into how I want it, with features I haven’t seen anywhere else yet and with integration into everything I work with. We’ve lived in a world where every app had to fit enough people well enough - but now we live in a world where an app can be molded to be absolutely perfect for just you!

It would have been much easier to clone six months ago but today Codex/Claude desktop apps are so feature packed it seems it wouldn’t be worth it.

For example, the mobile/remote control feature I find very useful but not sure it would be worth cloning. If you aren’t replicating every feature you aren’t exactly “cloning” it, you’ll just end up with a crappier version with a fraction of the features of the real thing.

Re: Kimi Work

#176

kimi has been particularly shameless in copying codex 1:1, wow. Like, I get it, before condex there was conductor and a ton of other guis but this looks like they just copied the code. Also, their privacy disclosure is incredibly misleading: > How does Kimi Work protect my privacy when accessing local files? You have absolute control over your files. The built-in Ask before acting safeguard means Kimi will prompt you…

The Dutch have a saying: it's better to have stolen something well than to have invented something bad.

Re: Kimi Work

#177
post #19

It rubs me the wrong way that they have to copy everything, the UI is almost exact copy of Codex. The entire mind set of just copy the best is holding them back.

> It rubs me the wrong way that they have to copy everything, the UI is almost exact copy of Codex

I'm sure OpenAI haven't copied or stolen anything without permission - oh wait a sec..

The US loves capitalism because it pRomOtEs cOmpEtiTion. Well, here's the competition you asked for, lads - suck it up.

Re: Kimi Work

#178

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Safe to say there is no moat.

You mean other than the zillion dollars of infrastructure you need to run these systems for a billion users. And the extreme cost to sustain that operation day to day. And the cost to upgrade the infrastructure forever. Remind me which entities (govt or corporate) are going to subsidize that forever. Remind me which entities are going to front the cost just to scale up. By that premise - wherein you forget everything…

Sure if you want to bake a cake you also need to invent the universe first…

As long open weight models get released; no moats are going to exist. Both windows and Linux are weak comparisons.

Re: Kimi Work

#179
post #141

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> the last 20 or so years of US/Chinese economic competition Only with some industries, mostly electronics and light manufacturing. The rest of the history of software products doesn't look like this at all. China cloned Amazon and Meta fairly well (but only within their local/captured markets) but not Microsoft or Google and absolutely not Apple. Entertainment and culture exports are still effectively zero (like, wh…

> China cloned Amazon and Meta fairly well (but only within their local/captured markets) Americans order Chinese products from SHEIN and Aliexpress type websites. So China did penetrate the US ecommerce market, but they are not taking on Amazon directly. People are buying from the Chinese and reselling on Amazon, which has a good logistics network that Chinese companies can't possibly build in the USA. > absolutely…

“You need to look up Oneplus to see how many people were using their devices till they announced exit from Western markets.”

The final part of this sentence shows why there is absolutely no need to look up Oneplus.

Re: Kimi Work

#180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly recommend to anyone that uses them a lot - try to clone your own. I’ve got mine fully formed into how I want it, with features I haven’t seen anywhere else yet and with integration into everything I work with. We’ve lived in a world where every app had to fit enough people well enough - but now we live in a world where an app can be molded to be absolutely perfect for just you!

How did you build your own coding agent? What language/framework did you use?

This comment is a great example of how large and strange the skills gap in AI is right now.

Curious why your first impulse is not simply to point your favorite agent at a few examples and start brainstorming/planning from there?

Multiple times I’ve built a purpose specific bespoke tool starting this way. In fact, it’s a great way to learn how specialized tools are built.

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