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#22For those unfamiliar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party The party has been variously characterised as left-wing and right-wing, as well as populist, nationalist and conservative. Some key issues for the Örebro Party locally include strong secularism, a 30-hour workweek with retained pay, lowered wages for politicians, expanded social housing, abolishing preschool-fees, making public transport free of ch…
It sounds like the usual far right bottom line dressed up with a bunch of “Free Pizza” promises to cover it with a veneer. Personally I wish people like his had the balls to stop hiding behind that kind of thing, we all know what someone is about when “immigration is the main problem” in their viewpoint. Own it. Or if it’s something to be ashamed of… accept the shame.
Not really, this looks more like pre-1990s leftism that you see from people like Caesar Chavez. Broadly redistributive policies towards the working class and a strict curbing of immigration as a source of exploited labor underclass for corporations to fatten their margins. There's a reason Bernie called open borders a "Koch brothers proposal".
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "radical tolerance" thing is also a little ironic, since the biggest controversy with the party that the founder donated to is that the party isn't tolerant of people from different backgrounds or nationalities... [insert Paradox of Tolerance quote here]
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party#Immigration_... : 'In 2026 Örebro Party leader Markus Allard sparked controversy on several occasions. In a debate hosted by Studio3 with Liberal member of parliament Martin Melin, Allard asked: "why won't the Liberals push for deporting 100 000 social welfare-Somalis?" and in the same debate said that "Sweden belongs to the Swedes. We have to make sure that we tak…
It's nice to cherry pick inflammatory things that have been stated without their full context.
The context in this case is that he was directly asked:
"What about the people born in Sweden who commit so many crimes and do not integrate at all, live their whole lives on welfare, as we are seeing in the statistics it is mostly the second-generation who are most represented" (I am adlibbing and translating, but this is the question).
Allard then said, as you put it: that being born here is not protection.
Now, that is an extreme position, nobody else would say such a thing, and to be totally clear: it's not possible in the Swedish constitution to strip someone of citizenship (even if they have a claim to another by blood- which is the most common method of attaining any citizenship btw) - it's also against international law to strip someone of a citizenship to leave them stateless.
However there's only 30,000 people (of 2.1M) foreign born people in Sweden whom are otherwise stateless (Palestinians; Balkans who did not reapply after the fall of Yugoslavia), and there is a huge issue with crime and integration.
There are no solutions, but it's kind of valid for Swedish people to be looking at people to ask difficult and stomach-churning questions in some way.
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#24I don't see how that particular political expression is a risk to their VPN's stance. This is a lot of nothing; would have been better to ignore the screeching from Bluesky.
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#25For those unfamiliar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party The party has been variously characterised as left-wing and right-wing, as well as populist, nationalist and conservative. Some key issues for the Örebro Party locally include strong secularism, a 30-hour workweek with retained pay, lowered wages for politicians, expanded social housing, abolishing preschool-fees, making public transport free of ch…
It sounds like the usual far right bottom line dressed up with a bunch of “Free Pizza” promises to cover it with a veneer. Personally I wish people like his had the balls to stop hiding behind that kind of thing, we all know what someone is about when “immigration is the main problem” in their viewpoint. Own it. Or if it’s something to be ashamed of… accept the shame.
Failure to recognize immigration as a problem for a sizeable chunk of the population--rightly or wrongly--ensures that they will fall pray to demagogues and will never again trust those who repeatedly blew them off.
Progressives fuck this up continually across the policy spectrum, by having no answer other than "no you're wrong/immoral/stupid" to people who express concerns in categories that have strong orthodoxy requirements.
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#26> We want to liken Mullvad to a force of nature. Or to cryptography. It just mechanically does its thing with no human arbiters.
I can't even find the right words to describe how wrong this sounds to me
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#27Who is the most trusted VPN provider now?
Mullvad, IVPN and Proton VPN are all trusted so choosing depends on your priorities with the small differences between them. https://www.privacyguides.org/en/vpn/ Obscura by definition is the same or better than Mullvad because of the multi-party relay. Similar with iCloud Private Relay but that's only for Safari which is inadequate. Nym looks promising but mixnets haven't been tested as much as the Tor network.
Proton VPN had their own controversial episode earlier this summer:
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "radical tolerance" thing is also a little ironic, since the biggest controversy with the party that the founder donated to is that the party isn't tolerant of people from different backgrounds or nationalities... [insert Paradox of Tolerance quote here]
Tolerant is the wrong word to choose because tolerant doesn't mean "accepting" it means... to tolerate . And the most extreme position they have stated is that "it doesn't matter if you're born here, if you commit crimes and don't respect the culture you should probably leave". That is an extreme position, but it's not as black as people seem to paint it, which implies heavily that the party is just simply racist aga…
> don't respect the culture
That's where it gets messy, at least in the States.
note: I have family in Sweden that are non-white but I've never discussed the issue as it felt a bit too "delicate"
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tolerant is the wrong word to choose because tolerant doesn't mean "accepting" it means... to tolerate . And the most extreme position they have stated is that "it doesn't matter if you're born here, if you commit crimes and don't respect the culture you should probably leave". That is an extreme position, but it's not as black as people seem to paint it, which implies heavily that the party is just simply racist aga…
> don't respect the culture That's where it gets messy, at least in the States. note: I have family in Sweden that are non-white but I've never discussed the issue as it felt a bit too "delicate"
Well, Sweden had to recently ban cousin marriage (it wasn't an issue before) but aside from that (which is a problem for the health service, but not for me personally), there are very differing perspectives towards homosexuality and Womens rights, and it is the second generation that feel most entitled to expressing their dissatisfaction at Swedens attitude towards those topics.
I might be a migrant myself, but I have strong feelings about this too.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "radical tolerance" thing is also a little ironic, since the biggest controversy with the party that the founder donated to is that the party isn't tolerant of people from different backgrounds or nationalities... [insert Paradox of Tolerance quote here]
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party#Immigration_... : 'In 2026 Örebro Party leader Markus Allard sparked controversy on several occasions. In a debate hosted by Studio3 with Liberal member of parliament Martin Melin, Allard asked: "why won't the Liberals push for deporting 100 000 social welfare-Somalis?" and in the same debate said that "Sweden belongs to the Swedes. We have to make sure that we tak…
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