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The creepiest 'sales demo' of all time

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Re: The creepiest 'sales demo' of all time

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Post by jdlshore »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #10
advisedwang wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This website is a small, local company. They have a newsletter signup page so they do collect user info. Quite likely they are not GDPR compliant (e.g. take longer than 30d to delete records, don't have a process for answering data requests etc). It is reasonable for them not to want to invest in getting the legal advise to know whether they are compliant or process improvements to become compliant, as there is no RO…

I’m still not clear why US companies with no business units in Europe feel the need to make any changes at all to be in compliance with a law that has no jurisdiction over them, but agree that Geofencing is a cheaper solution than asking a lawyer.

The GDPR states that websites that serve EU citizens are subject to it, no matter where they are. Many US news organizations chose to geo-block the EU rather than going to the trouble of figuring out compliance.

Re: The creepiest 'sales demo' of all time

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Post by jdlshore »

wxw wrote: post #8

Is there more information available? This article is effectively one sentence long: > On Sept. 30, 2025, a Flock vice president logged into the Dunwoody PD’s Flock system and looked at a camera in the children’s gymnastics room of a private community center here in Dunwoody. And there is a lot being implied in this sentence.

It’s a letter to the editor.

Re: The creepiest 'sales demo' of all time

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Post by jazzyjackson »

jdlshore wrote: post #11
jazzyjackson wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m still not clear why US companies with no business units in Europe feel the need to make any changes at all to be in compliance with a law that has no jurisdiction over them, but agree that Geofencing is a cheaper solution than asking a lawyer.

The GDPR states that websites that serve EU citizens are subject to it, no matter where they are. Many US news organizations chose to geo-block the EU rather than going to the trouble of figuring out compliance.

The GDPR can state whatever it wants but what are the consequences? If the taliban pass a law about what is required to serve websites in Afghanistan, for instance, what obligation am I under to even notice?

If I am Reuters and AP and have offices in EU of course I am interested in complying with local law, but it doesn’t make sense to me for a local newspaper to care whether they are in compliance with foreign statutes.

Re: The creepiest 'sales demo' of all time

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Post by godwinson__4-8 »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #13
jdlshore wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GDPR states that websites that serve EU citizens are subject to it, no matter where they are. Many US news organizations chose to geo-block the EU rather than going to the trouble of figuring out compliance.

The GDPR can state whatever it wants but what are the consequences? If the taliban pass a law about what is required to serve websites in Afghanistan, for instance, what obligation am I under to even notice? If I am Reuters and AP and have offices in EU of course I am interested in complying with local law, but it doesn’t make sense to me for a local newspaper to care whether they are in compliance with foreign statu…

Westerners don't travel to Afghanistan. Europe is not a pariah continent. Does this really need to be explained to you? You think global integration with Europe vs Afghanistan is comparable?

Re: The creepiest 'sales demo' of all time

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Post by urbandw311er »

arjie wrote: post #7
goldenarm wrote: post #3

Why is this site blocked in the EU ? Was disabling cookies on your static page that hard ?

No one is going to go around complying with random rules from other countries, man. If you don't serve that population, just opt them out.

Except that it’s an entire continent and loads of people do comply with it. You just sound ignorant.

Re: The creepiest 'sales demo' of all time

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Post by [deleted] »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #6
goldenarm wrote: post #3

Why is this site blocked in the EU ? Was disabling cookies on your static page that hard ?

They are a hyper local business. The chance of making any revenue off EU users is close to 0, which is much higher than the cost of figuring out EU compliance. The conversation went like this: IT director: “If we serve ads or collect data from EU users we have to be GDPR compliant. That’ll cost several thousand dollars worth of employee time” Exec: “how much revenue is attributable to EU users.” IT: “Single digit dol…

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Re: The creepiest 'sales demo' of all time

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Post by [deleted] »

godwinson__4-8 wrote: post #14
jazzyjackson wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GDPR can state whatever it wants but what are the consequences? If the taliban pass a law about what is required to serve websites in Afghanistan, for instance, what obligation am I under to even notice? If I am Reuters and AP and have offices in EU of course I am interested in complying with local law, but it doesn’t make sense to me for a local newspaper to care whether they are in compliance with foreign statu…

Westerners don't travel to Afghanistan. Europe is not a pariah continent. Does this really need to be explained to you? You think global integration with Europe vs Afghanistan is comparable?

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Re: The creepiest 'sales demo' of all time

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Post by manytimesaway »

arjie wrote: post #7
goldenarm wrote: post #3

Why is this site blocked in the EU ? Was disabling cookies on your static page that hard ?

No one is going to go around complying with random rules from other countries, man. If you don't serve that population, just opt them out.

So we're supposed to deal with your bullshit Patriot Act while GDPR is too "random" for you?

Re: The creepiest 'sales demo' of all time

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Post by actionfromafar »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #4
goldenarm wrote: post #3

Why is this site blocked in the EU ? Was disabling cookies on your static page that hard ?

You're not missing anything. Here is the full text: (this could have been an email:) On Sept. 30, 2025, a Flock vice president logged into the Dunwoody PD’s Flock system and looked at a camera in the children’s gymnastics room of a private community center here in Dunwoody. He did not look at any other cameras in the entire 400-camera network that day. The community center shared their cameras directly to the PD unde…

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Re: The creepiest 'sales demo' of all time

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Post by devilbunny »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #10
advisedwang wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This website is a small, local company. They have a newsletter signup page so they do collect user info. Quite likely they are not GDPR compliant (e.g. take longer than 30d to delete records, don't have a process for answering data requests etc). It is reasonable for them not to want to invest in getting the legal advise to know whether they are compliant or process improvements to become compliant, as there is no RO…

I’m still not clear why US companies with no business units in Europe feel the need to make any changes at all to be in compliance with a law that has no jurisdiction over them, but agree that Geofencing is a cheaper solution than asking a lawyer.

Because they have identifiable owners who might wish to travel to Europe and not risk someone deciding to make an example of them.
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