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Re: Kimi Work

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Post by sixtyj » Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 8:55 PM UTC

aliasxneo wrote: post #103

Has anyone cancelled their $200 ChatGPT subscription and started using Kimi? It'd be an interesting metric to measure. I for one have no motivation to use this model. Nonetheless, I'm always happy to see more competition.

There should be a benchmark re Tiananmen Square and Uyghurs among LLMs.

Grok answered, ChatGPT answered, Claude answered.

Chinese Z.ai replied “Content Security Warning: The input text data may contain inappropriate content“.

So it is nice that Kimi is cheaper but for what price?

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by saylisteins » Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 8:55 PM UTC

fttt wrote: post #109

xboxnolifes wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good UI/UX is noticed and appreciated by many. A great UI/UX goes completely unnoticed by most.

This is false. Apple’s UI/UX is the reason why they are adored from a physical attraction perspective.

Apple UI/UX sucks though, but all the other alternatives also suck.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by sixtyj » Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 8:57 PM UTC

Havoc wrote: post #85

People saying copy aren't wrong...but if you can offer a copy at 1/5th of the price then you've got a winning product not a copy

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Re: Kimi Work

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Post by fttt » Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 8:57 PM UTC

bogdan wrote: post #107

dakolli wrote: post #100

Nobody actually producing hard goods, real world value and actual software are using these cute tools. Its completely worthless to people actually doing things.

It's worthless until it isn't.

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Re: Kimi Work

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Post by theK » Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 8:57 PM UTC

fttt wrote: post #109

xboxnolifes wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good UI/UX is noticed and appreciated by many. A great UI/UX goes completely unnoticed by most.

This is false. Apple’s UI/UX is the reason why they are adored from a physical attraction perspective.

I think it can safely be argued that (only) good UX but also great marketing are the reason of that.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by oh_no » Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 9:09 PM UTC

nickthegreek wrote: post #58

simlevesque wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'll most likely land on Bedrock when the K3 weights are released.

Will it? Bedrock doesnt have deepseek v4, GLM 5.2, Qwen 3.6, minimax m3.

it has kimi 2.5, which isn't to say this will show up but who knows

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by chews » Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 9:10 PM UTC

vardalab wrote: post #108

JacobAsmuth wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Kimi 1/5th the price? Artificial analysis has it at the same price as GPT 5.6 Sol while performing worse.

Yeah, but maybe Kimi doesn't pretend to know better than I do. Like, I just had a task today where I had a silly form where I wanted to copy in a signature from one document to another document. And, you know, I could have just used some other dumb tools, but I decided, hey, let me us ask Codex to do it. But it started lecturing me on how we can't do this kind of stuff. And it was just pure silliness. So hopefully Ki…

computer says no

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by oh_no » Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 9:11 PM UTC

piker wrote: post #74

prmoustache wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copying is not frowned upon in the LLM ecosystem. This is its very reason of existence.

Perhaps, but "we run the exact same business as Anthropic and OpenAI to the pixel at 0.1% the price" is going to raise eyebrows.

GLM 5.2 and Kimi 3 both had huge API pricing jumps (GLM most expensive chinese model, by a lot, then then Kimi 3 a lot higher than that). the cost advantage is rapidly decaying. the oft-cited cost per task makes Kimi look good vs Anthropic but even, or slightly vs OpenAI

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by jaggederest » Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 9:12 PM UTC

Maxatar wrote: post #94

piker wrote: post #88

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In that case is there not some open harness that demand can coalesce around?

There are but then you're required to pay API prices for them which can end up costing significant multiples of the price of the subscription.

I am confused why they don't just offer a subscription with bring-your-own-harness, that would be a differentiator from claude/codex I think.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by alexjameson » Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 9:14 PM UTC

wild_egg wrote: post #5

Is there a link anywhere for a docs site for this? Really curious to know what "deep data sources" they have set up for the Native Global Market Data feature.

Most docs are here https://www.kimi.com/code/docs/en/kimi-code-cli/customizatio...

Not sure about the feature you mentioned but one can see in their app that they use IMF, World Bank, SEC EDGAR, and Yahoo Finance.