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Narrative? Kind of like the sphere Earth narrative.
Pedantic. > A narrative is a structured account of connected events, experiences, or ideas, commonly referred to as a story Regardless of intent, it is how you tell your story.
It's a mistake to make this such an obvious copy. It will feed the narrative that Chinese entities cannot be trusted by the West. They could have varied it even slightly. It's one thing with hardware because customers don't need to trust suppliers any further than they can throw the box. But these labs seem to be battling for enterprise knowledge work-share. Trust is paramount, and they're already behind on that fron…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Narrative? Kind of like the sphere Earth narrative.
Pedantic. > A narrative is a structured account of connected events, experiences, or ideas, commonly referred to as a story Regardless of intent, it is how you tell your story.
It's a mistake to make this such an obvious copy. It will feed the narrative that Chinese entities cannot be trusted by the West. They could have varied it even slightly. It's one thing with hardware because customers don't need to trust suppliers any further than they can throw the box. But these labs seem to be battling for enterprise knowledge work-share. Trust is paramount, and they're already behind on that fron…
Copying is not frowned upon in the LLM ecosystem. This is its very reason of existence.
There's really no real reason for those tools to be separate and for them not to give me something a bit nicer than just a TUI in the terminal.
They already have a locally runnable web UI when you have Kimi (the CLI) installed: https://www.kimi.com/help/kimi-code/cli-getting-started
kimi server run --foreground
Personally, I still liked ZCode better and will probably write a blog post about my experience with K3 too, the harness might need some more work, but the model is really, really good.
Is there an opensource version of such a tool. I would really like a desktop app and use different models instead of a CLI.
It's a mistake to make this such an obvious copy. It will feed the narrative that Chinese entities cannot be trusted by the West. They could have varied it even slightly. It's one thing with hardware because customers don't need to trust suppliers any further than they can throw the box. But these labs seem to be battling for enterprise knowledge work-share. Trust is paramount, and they're already behind on that fron…
Copying is not frowned upon in the LLM ecosystem. This is its very reason of existence.
Step 1: invent the universe
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Copying is not frowned upon in the LLM ecosystem. This is its very reason of existence.
Perhaps, but "we run the exact same business as Anthropic and OpenAI to the pixel at 0.1% the price" is going to raise eyebrows.
It's clearly a dupe of Claude/Codex products (Codex especially, styling-wise), but I think Kimi's goal here is simply to appear on feature-parity with bigger labs. I doubt they'd want to invest much into designing a UI for "the future of agentic work" from the ground up.
Their bread and butter and claim-to-fame will continue to be low-cost, near-frontier models, for which they need to at least appear to have some app layer to plug into.
And, in some ways, duping is a great way to show people that even the app layer can be commoditized.