Fable is now included on Max plans (up to 50% of weekly limit)
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Re: Fable is now included on Max plans (up to 50% of weekly limit)
#12...but not for Pro plans anymore, they give you one-time 100$ extra usage credits instead (well it said 100$ but I only got 85).
Max would be a 7x cost increase for me, I think it'd have to do a bit more than it does to justify that.
I'm so sorry you can't have the extremely intelligent and expensive model for $20
Re: Fable is now included on Max plans (up to 50% of weekly limit)
#13Make no mistake: the only reason you are getting the Fable 5 on Max plans is the Chinese competition.
Without it, you would be paying $2,000/month (Sam Altman, circa 2023/24 when he was saying GPT-4 had IQ of 130).
Re: Fable is now included on Max plans (up to 50% of weekly limit)
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Max would be a 7x cost increase for me, I think it'd have to do a bit more than it does to justify that.
I'm so sorry you can't have the extremely intelligent and expensive model for $20
Why so snarky? They included it in my plan "for free", I tried it, felt that it isn't worth the price at this point.
Re: Fable is now included on Max plans (up to 50% of weekly limit)
#15Fable is insanely annoying. It treats me like an incompetent, suggesting when something is in my expertise that I'm actually wrong. And then it will simply refuse to engage or do what's asked. Anything related to present day American Politics is strictly off limits. How is this truth seeking, or rational? Model misalignment increases when post-training is done on non verifiably domains. Scary times indeed.
Re: Fable is now included on Max plans (up to 50% of weekly limit)
#16The effort frontier model providers are going through to generate a permanent client base would make Philip Morris blush.
Re: Fable is now included on Max plans (up to 50% of weekly limit)
#17Hello, Codex
Re: Fable is now included on Max plans (up to 50% of weekly limit)
#18Limiting the amount of Fable usage makes us reserve Fable for our hardest problems, which is probably a very important signal when it comes to how valuable the training data is.
In other words, I think they've found a way to manipulate their customers into labeling sessions as "high quality data" (Fable sessions) and "low quality data" (non-Fable sessions).
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#19Fable is insanely annoying. It treats me like an incompetent, suggesting when something is in my expertise that I'm actually wrong. And then it will simply refuse to engage or do what's asked. Anything related to present day American Politics is strictly off limits. How is this truth seeking, or rational? Model misalignment increases when post-training is done on non verifiably domains. Scary times indeed.
That's what you get when American companies bow to pressure from the federal government in order to release a product.
If you personally offend the President or a member of his cabinet in any way, you don't get to go to market.
Meanwhile China's censored open models are looking more and more attractive in direct comparison to censored American models.
Re: Fable is now included on Max plans (up to 50% of weekly limit)
#20...but not for Pro plans anymore, they give you one-time 100$ extra usage credits instead (well it said 100$ but I only got 85).
$20 Pro plans are still BS starter plans anyway, right? I blew through that in an hour when I first tested out Claude Code.