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Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac

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Re: Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac

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Is „frontier“ overused? I thought frontier models were the best-of-the-best such as Fable right now. I assume you can’t host these models yourself since you would need many GB of RAM and expensive GPU of is my thinking of „frontier models“ wrong?

+1 came here to say this, I opened the link expecting some technical breakthrough. Misleading click bait title.

Re: Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac

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This looks like the Prism folks, who are making binary/ternary versions of popular edge models, so that those models will fit on constrained devices like phones. E.g., their Bonsai model derived from Qwen:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48910545

Perhaps they got tired of LM Studio, etc., not being able to run their models properly.

Re: Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac

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post #7

Is „frontier“ overused? I thought frontier models were the best-of-the-best such as Fable right now. I assume you can’t host these models yourself since you would need many GB of RAM and expensive GPU of is my thinking of „frontier models“ wrong?

Had the same though. The gap between open-source and the frontier is closing in, especially with Kimi K3, but that is like >2T parameters. The Gemma 4 and other models you can actually run on an average Mac, is not in the same league.

Re: Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac

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post #12

Advice: remove all slop and fluff from the website such as "Everything you need. Nothing you don’t." Just state the information you want to communicate in the plainest and most straightforward way possible.

Something nobody needs is pointless hot air like "Everything you need. Nothing you don't."

Re: Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac

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I'm surprised that their home page basically acts as if LM Studio and others don't already do this. It's not clear what the difference is from a glance.

It also omits Open WebUI. I've been running Deepseek V4 Flash locally on my Macbook Pro for weeks using Open WebUI + DS4.

Re: Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac

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post #7

Is „frontier“ overused? I thought frontier models were the best-of-the-best such as Fable right now. I assume you can’t host these models yourself since you would need many GB of RAM and expensive GPU of is my thinking of „frontier models“ wrong?

The frontier is a curve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_front

Re: Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac

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post #12

Advice: remove all slop and fluff from the website such as "Everything you need. Nothing you don’t." Just state the information you want to communicate in the plainest and most straightforward way possible.

You’d be surprised how hard this actually is. I spent 3 days iterating on a marketing site, where I had very explicit / “well written” copy, and it would just repeatedly rewrite it back to the most awful slop. Over and over again! Ended up adding various AGENTS rules telling it to leave the copy alone

Re: Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac

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This looks like the Prism folks, who are making binary/ternary versions of popular edge models, so that those models will fit on constrained devices like phones. E.g., their Bonsai model derived from Qwen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48910545 Perhaps they got tired of LM Studio, etc., not being able to run their models properly.

Is it? The developer page for the github repo suggests he works at Arcee. Maybe he moved?

(I initially thought the same because of the website appearance)

Re: Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac

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post #12

Advice: remove all slop and fluff from the website such as "Everything you need. Nothing you don’t." Just state the information you want to communicate in the plainest and most straightforward way possible.

You’d be surprised how hard this actually is. I spent 3 days iterating on a marketing site, where I had very explicit / “well written” copy, and it would just repeatedly rewrite it back to the most awful slop. Over and over again! Ended up adding various AGENTS rules telling it to leave the copy alone

Definitely easier and better than just writing the copy..
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