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Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by felooboolooomba »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #4

- extremely stupid question but please entertain me here a bit - why dont any of the modern browsers open and load pages instantaneously anymore, why does it take seconds? - is this because of backward compatibility support where you are supporting html, css and JS features all the way back to the 90s - apart from gecko and v8 why dont we have browser engines? - are you familiar with anyone building an entire browser…

Chrome (which I don't use) provides a really good profiler that can give you answers down to the milliseconds on what's happening during page load and also actions. Web tech provides so much functionality but web dev often don't bother optimizing their sites. I'm not saying browsers are blameless, but at least you get good tools that'll give you hints.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by petu »

rustyhancock wrote: post #3

> It is now possible to merge multiple PDFs by dragging a PDF into the PDF sidebar. > It is now possible to add images as new pages within PDFs using the Firefox PDF editor. I have always found it odd that browsers are also PDF editors increasingly.

I think in case of Firefox it's done purely with JS (https://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/), no native code.

So that feels fine (assuming it runs in same sandbox like any page), just bundled HTML/JS being changed.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by pbreit »

crote wrote: post #2

> Firefox now verifies and displays Qualified Website Authentication Certificates (QWACs) in accordance with eIDAS regulations. Interesting that they just buried this in the middle without even a screenshot, considering how hostile Mozilla has been to the proposal in the past[0]. Considering that they previously made quite strong arguments that implementing QWAC would undermine security by completely bypassing the ex…

Has Firefox not had containers until now????

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by mmooss »

> Containers let you keep separate parts of your online life (work, shopping, personal, banking) logged into different accounts in the same browser window, but keep your cookies and ad tracking isolated inside each container.

What's new here? Containers have been an add-on, at least, for a long time? Is it integrated into core Firefox for the first time?

> Quickly pick and copy a color from any page by typing "pick color", "color picker", or "eyedropper" in the address bar and selecting the "Pick a color" quick action.

This seems like add-on or developer tools territory. Maybe that's what quick actions are? Does Firefox really want to add non-essential widgets to maintain, support, and integrate going forward? Maybe this one is necessary for some reason? I have a global color-picker that works in every application; I expect many who need one have the same.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

#36

Post by crote »

zaxcellent wrote: post #17
crote wrote: post #2

> Firefox now verifies and displays Qualified Website Authentication Certificates (QWACs) in accordance with eIDAS regulations. Interesting that they just buried this in the middle without even a screenshot, considering how hostile Mozilla has been to the proposal in the past[0]. Considering that they previously made quite strong arguments that implementing QWAC would undermine security by completely bypassing the ex…

It seems like Mozilla negotiated with the EU to assuage their security concerns[0]. [0]: https://securityriskahead.eu/

I'm glad to hear that! Someone should probably update the Wikipedia page they link to in the changelog, then.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

petu wrote: post #32
rustyhancock wrote: post #3

> It is now possible to merge multiple PDFs by dragging a PDF into the PDF sidebar. > It is now possible to add images as new pages within PDFs using the Firefox PDF editor. I have always found it odd that browsers are also PDF editors increasingly.

I think in case of Firefox it's done purely with JS ( https://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/ ), no native code. So that feels fine (assuming it runs in same sandbox like any page), just bundled HTML/JS being changed.

No, it's still a weird scope creep. Browsers can view a lot of things (HTML document, various pictures, sounds, videos), but they don't typically include editing functionality.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by abrowne »

RattlesnakeJake wrote: post #9
rustyhancock wrote: post #3

> It is now possible to merge multiple PDFs by dragging a PDF into the PDF sidebar. > It is now possible to add images as new pages within PDFs using the Firefox PDF editor. I have always found it odd that browsers are also PDF editors increasingly.

It's odd and I'm not sure I love it compared to a nicely-done dedicated viewer (macOS Preview, SumatraPDF, whatever comes with GNOME or KDE). That said, I'll pick the in-browser tools over Adobe Reader every time.

I prefer the Firefox PDF viewer personally, and now that it can do all this I uninstalled the default Ubuntu PDF reader recently. It made me think and I uninstalled the image viewer app too. For both I'd rather use Firefox.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by mrsilencedogood »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #37
petu wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think in case of Firefox it's done purely with JS ( https://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/ ), no native code. So that feels fine (assuming it runs in same sandbox like any page), just bundled HTML/JS being changed.

No, it's still a weird scope creep. Browsers can view a lot of things (HTML document, various pictures, sounds, videos), but they don't typically include editing functionality.

Browsers can fill out forms. Many forms are (unfortunately) PDFs, especially for orgs that are struggling to digitize (govts...). PDFs which then need to be filled out.

So this seems to make a lot of sense to me and I'll be glad to have the functionality, especially when PDF functionality is such a mess in the general world (lots of barely-working software).

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by greyface- »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #37
petu wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think in case of Firefox it's done purely with JS ( https://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/ ), no native code. So that feels fine (assuming it runs in same sandbox like any page), just bundled HTML/JS being changed.

No, it's still a weird scope creep. Browsers can view a lot of things (HTML document, various pictures, sounds, videos), but they don't typically include editing functionality.

has existed since IE 5.5, and was standardized in the first version of HTML5.

https://blog.whatwg.org/the-road-to-html-5-contenteditable

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