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Re: HMD Touch 4G

#101

Post by wolvoleo »

lloeki wrote: post #99
wolvoleo wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes you still see so many around. They might not have sold enough by Apple standards but they still sold in huge absolute numbers.

Conversely, I am counting 6 persons (7 when including myself) in my direct close circle that do not upgrade because there is no Mini on the Apple lineup. I'm not counting people that did upgrade but are spiteful of the forced size increase.

I'm really not surprised. The mini is sooo cute.

I'd have got one myself but iOS doesn't work for me.. I have several things I need on a mobile phone that are not available on iOS.

For me a phone is really an outside the house thing only. I don't use it at home to poke around on the internet etc, like most people do these days. I still have a real computer with a massive screen and keyboard. So a mini size is great for me.

On Android there's the ones from Unihertz but they take the "small" factor a little bit too far, and also their software support is absolutely terrible. And people often mention the zenPhone, I'm not sure why because it was never smaller than the Samsung S-series. It wasn't really a small phone anyway.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#104

Post by sdsdssweew213 »

abc123abc123 wrote: post #92
cactusplant7374 wrote: post #51

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This is perfect. I've been looking for a burner phone for when I'm in Guayaquil. Something I wouldn't mind losing in a robbery.

Why would you voluntarily go to a place where you expect to be robbed? I go to places where there is very little, to no, risk of being robbed. This is good.

Maybe they have relatives there. Maybe their job requires them to.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#105

Post by stonogo »

abc123abc123 wrote: post #93

It's a nice attempt. Dumbphone, with 2 MP camera and wifi hotspot. Sadly they shoot themselves in the foot by only offering it in india. Now, if they would only remove the gimmicky touch screen, and replace it with buttons, the phone would be a perfect for those who do not like to have a surveillance device in their pocket. Or at least a "lesser" surveillance device.

They "shoot themselves in the foot" by only offering it in a billion-and-a-half-person market? Not sure how. The sales numbers in ROW are probably a rounding error compared to India.

Also HMD already sells that other product you're describing. They're on the same website linked above; click "Feature Phones" to see them.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#106

Post by slim »

janv wrote: post #56
puzzlingcaptcha wrote: post #29

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The little print at the end says "Currently only available in India." Reminds me a bit of HMD's KaiOS feature phones but this is apparently Android?

No, it uses RTOS Touch. Looks like HMD/Nokia gave up on KaiOS a few years ago.

which makes it a new platform. any other phone uses rtos touch ?

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#107

Post by butz »

There is a severe lack of compact smartphones in the market. Are there any devices available with regular OS updates, that fit into normal sized pocket?

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#108

Post by roryirvine »

lloeki wrote: post #98
amelius wrote: post #47

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It says "Small phone". And it is indeed smaller than most smartphones. Apple never made a small smartphone, presumably because they need the big screen for their vending-machine-in-your-pocket to sell more content.

> And it is indeed smaller than most smartphones. Apple never made a small smartphone I couldn't find specs for this thing but from the picture it looks to be about the same size as the original iPhone.

A bit smaller.

Touch 4G: 102 x 62 x 11

iPhone: 115 x 61 x 12

The Samsung Z Flip is probably your best bet if small size is the most important factor - though, er, slightly more expensive than the HMD!

Z Flip 7: 86 x 75 x 13

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#109

Post by pjmlp »

HDBaseT wrote: post #59
daneel_w wrote: post #39

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Do you live in a 5G-only region? If not, what's the problem?

There isn't many (if any) countries with only 5G, although most countries have shutdown both 2G and 3G networks, with the 4G shutdown likely within the next decade. Not supporting 5G limits this devices longevity, although at the price point and Indian market focus, I think its acceptable.

In Europe there are still plenty of places without 5G coverage, which anyone travelling by train will quickly notice.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#110

Post by jaclaz »

butz wrote: post #107

There is a severe lack of compact smartphones in the market. Are there any devices available with regular OS updates, that fit into normal sized pocket?

I have found a very usable phone (for what I do, which is not much) in low cost Chinese "mini rugged phones" namely I had (until I broke the screen and battery was not in very good condition) a "king kong mini" and then I got the (slightly larger) "king kong mini 3" (the 4 is the latest model, I believe). They are slightly heavier than you would expect, but have very long autonomy and fit nicely in a shirt's pocket.
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