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Post by mightyham »

Eupolemos wrote: post #213
mightyham wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except it is literally is just rational geopolitics. The story of the Russian invasion of Ukraine is not just a single whimsical choice by a mad dictator. There has been a decades long encirclement campaign by NATO which ultimately pushed too far. That's not to say that states joining NATO did not do so willingly and of their own accord, but that it played into a larger struggle for influence that disadvantaged Russi…

No. > The moral dimension is also completely illusory. Ukraine is fighting a war of attrition that's funding is due to the same cold-hearted power politics that Russia subscribes to. Blatant gaslighting. Ukraine is defending against an invasion. Russia has said it wants to go further and take what it can of Europe, states that the Baltics aren't countries and threatens us all with nukes on a daily basis. In Europe we…

> everybody knows how to live in peace. Except Russia.

Talk about an extraordinary case of recency bias. Cheap shot, I know, but I had to make it.

Europe currently defends itself because that's all it CAN do. They abandoned their armies because the continent outsourced defense spending/industry to the United States and Russia following WWII.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by Eupolemos »

mightyham wrote: post #231
Eupolemos wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. > The moral dimension is also completely illusory. Ukraine is fighting a war of attrition that's funding is due to the same cold-hearted power politics that Russia subscribes to. Blatant gaslighting. Ukraine is defending against an invasion. Russia has said it wants to go further and take what it can of Europe, states that the Baltics aren't countries and threatens us all with nukes on a daily basis. In Europe we…

> everybody knows how to live in peace. Except Russia. Talk about an extraordinary case of recency bias. Cheap shot, I know, but I had to make it. Europe currently defends itself because that's all it CAN do. They abandoned their armies because the continent outsourced defense spending/industry to the United States and Russia following WWII.

> They abandoned their armies because the continent outsourced defense spending/industry to the United States and Russia following WWII.

We outsourced our defense spending to Russia?

Are you incapable of embarrassment over your own level of ignorance?

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by freediver »

sodapopcan wrote: post #69

I paid the one-time fee that gives you lifetime access to it over a year ago and it's been at least a year that I haven't used it (It was like $270USD or something... I can't remember). I wanted to, and still want to, like it so badly but there were just too many bugs and I have been using Firefox since. Every once in a while I come back to Orion to see what's up... Now... this is likely going to sound extremely stup…

I appreciate that you are very particular about UI. Have you considered opening a thread on orionfeedback.org and sharing some of the thoughts/ideas?

And thanks for the support, being completely user-funded is what makes developing Orion fun!

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Post by matheusmoreira »

dzonga wrote: post #209
matheusmoreira wrote: post #175

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> ads are not bad Ads are noise deliberately added to the signal. They're content you did not seek out and probably don't want. All advertisements are inherently untrustworthy: they're getting paid to sell you something, naturally they will exaggerate the positives and downplay the negatives. Conflicts of interest doesn't even begin to describe it. That's the charitable interpretation. One could describe advertising…

If I put out a native ad - uBlock Origin won't work on it. since it's just an html tag or any other element. the ad industry at large has caused damage - for you to think ads are not beneficial and intrusive or mind rape as you call it - through excessive mining, data selling. but like an example - I gave - there's an article about cars - and in there there's a text item that says BMW or Cadillac has released a new V…

> If I put out a native ad - uBlock Origin won't work on it. since it's just an html

tag or any other element.

It absolutely will. I routinely block all sorts of elements on pages. If I think your

is annoying, it will get zapped with extreme prejudice.

> there's an article about cars - and in there there's a text item that says BMW or Cadillac has released a new V8 or electric sedans

That's just normal information. I don't consider it advertising. Users go to the site to read about cars, they're getting exactly what they wanted.

If I go to the market, it's because I want to see the products. If I open the app, it's because I want to see the offerings. If I come to HN, it's because I want to see submissions and comments.

In these cases, it's not advertising, it's the exact information I requested. It becomes advertising if they pay money to shove the products into my face while I'm trying to read a programming blog.

> not logical but it works. and that's what runs the world - whether you like it or not. see the world as it is.

Yeah, well the world sucks, the world is wrong and I'll fight it. I couldn't care less how much money they lose. My mind is sacred, and I don't have memory to waste on brands, slogans and jingles.

There is absolutely nothing stopping people from literally banning advertising. It's a very simple policy decision. People just have to develop the audacity to demand it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cidade_Limpa

https://99percentinvisible.org/article/clean-city-law-secret...

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Post by carlosjobim »

helterskelter wrote: post #41
applfanboysbgon wrote: post #38

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Okay...? Do you believe you're entitled to everyone's code for free?

Do you believe closed-source software is entitled to people's usage and good opinion? Who wants to use a privacy-focused browser which isn't FOSS in this day and age, especially given the mature alternatives?

Billions of people.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by freediver »

espetro wrote: post #221

> The only browser supporting Safari, Chrome, and Firefox extensions Honestly it's nuts you've cracked a way to support all three of Safari, Chrome and Firefox extensions. In my experience while developing browser extensions, providing support for all three is somewhat of a headache. Care to share more insights on how you did it, or even launching/supporting a browser extension framework to ship browser extensions?

It was a design goal since we started working on it in 2019. (because why not?) It is basically a matter of time and devotion - we invested 7 years of development into it and while still not perfect (this is an incredibly messy problem!) a lot of people enjoy running their favorite extensions, even on iOS, which is truly unique to Orion.

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Post by flumes_whims_ »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #181
Razengan wrote: post #107

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I wish there was a way to use American products without a cent going to fund American wars, police militarization or global spying.

Putting what russia does in same sentence as what america does, shows that you are either intentionally trolling or severely handicaped.

I'm sure Iraqis, Libyans, Iranians, Palestinians, etc. agree that putting Russia in the same sentence as America is stupid.
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