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Re: Tech Workers Face Evaporating Financial Security as AI Transforms Industry

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Big company layoffs are probably more aligned with offshoring than AI, but they'll never admit it. Zuckerbergs 8 billion dollar VR metaverse flop has something to do with this maybe? Last time I checked AI isn't killing jobs if the other news is to be believed.

Offshore engineers tend to require just as much micromanagement and perfect clarification as an LLM, so if anything I would expect the demand for offshore engineers to fall much faster than for local talent.

Re: Tech Workers Face Evaporating Financial Security as AI Transforms Industry

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’re going to be well into the Diamond Age before people stop attributing layoffs to ‘Covid overhiring.’

Big tech employee counts are still nearly 2x higher now than 2019.

In 2019 I bet they were more than 2x what they were in 2012.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’re going to be well into the Diamond Age before people stop attributing layoffs to ‘Covid overhiring.’

Big tech employee counts are still nearly 2x higher now than 2019.

And big tech market cap is 5x what it was in 2019, yes. I’m not hearing wild overhiring in these numbers, quite the opposite.

Re: Tech Workers Face Evaporating Financial Security as AI Transforms Industry

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Big company layoffs are probably more aligned with offshoring than AI, but they'll never admit it. Zuckerbergs 8 billion dollar VR metaverse flop has something to do with this maybe? Last time I checked AI isn't killing jobs if the other news is to be believed.

> Zuckerbergs 8 billion dollar VR metaverse flop has something to do with this maybe?

I believe that was an investment into controlling the next platform, so what happened on iOS with could never happen to them again.

What's far crazier and more applicable to the current balance sheet is the $14.3B acqui-hire of Alexandr Wang. But, what do I know?

Re: Tech Workers Face Evaporating Financial Security as AI Transforms Industry

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Big company layoffs are probably more aligned with offshoring than AI, but they'll never admit it. Zuckerbergs 8 billion dollar VR metaverse flop has something to do with this maybe? Last time I checked AI isn't killing jobs if the other news is to be believed.

Or my personal favorite - offshore teams being confidently wrong after having asked AI

Re: Tech Workers Face Evaporating Financial Security as AI Transforms Industry

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"Tech workers"? "a salary of more than $500,000 in her most recent position, as a mid-tier executive at Meta" I'm sorry, but if you're making over half a million in TC a year, you can have an emergency fund set aside as an overpaid executive . How many actual tech workers (the ones making under $100k, lol) are facing even harder financial security than the first-world-problems of some Facebook exec who could afford t…

Americans' political education has been deliberately hobbled. An educated person (let alone a journalist) in most of the rest of the developed world (and lots of the developing world) would know instinctively not to call an executive a "worker".

That said, I believe there probably are workers (in the sense of having the same class interests as other workers rather than the owners, like an executive does) in the Bay Area that earn these kinds of numbers. Again, this is something that a proper political education would make very clear, but anything that smacks of a materialist or class-based analysis is now completely verboten at most levels of the education system because it is considered "Marxism," an enemy ideology.

Re: Tech Workers Face Evaporating Financial Security as AI Transforms Industry

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"Tech workers"? "a salary of more than $500,000 in her most recent position, as a mid-tier executive at Meta" I'm sorry, but if you're making over half a million in TC a year, you can have an emergency fund set aside as an overpaid executive . How many actual tech workers (the ones making under $100k, lol) are facing even harder financial security than the first-world-problems of some Facebook exec who could afford t…

One of the things that surprised me in Silicon Valley is that my colleagues who were making $500K-$1M a year levered up their lives and saved surprisingly little. Multiple houses, $200K cars, nannies, very expensive vacations, you name it.

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Re: Tech Workers Face Evaporating Financial Security as AI Transforms Industry

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"Tech workers"? "a salary of more than $500,000 in her most recent position, as a mid-tier executive at Meta" I'm sorry, but if you're making over half a million in TC a year, you can have an emergency fund set aside as an overpaid executive . How many actual tech workers (the ones making under $100k, lol) are facing even harder financial security than the first-world-problems of some Facebook exec who could afford t…

One of the things that surprised me in Silicon Valley is that my colleagues who were making $500K-$1M a year levered up their lives and saved surprisingly little. Multiple houses, $200K cars, nannies, very expensive vacations, you name it.

Many people across all income levels are really bad at dealing with personal finances and long-term financial planning.

Re: Tech Workers Face Evaporating Financial Security as AI Transforms Industry

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"Tech workers"? "a salary of more than $500,000 in her most recent position, as a mid-tier executive at Meta" I'm sorry, but if you're making over half a million in TC a year, you can have an emergency fund set aside as an overpaid executive . How many actual tech workers (the ones making under $100k, lol) are facing even harder financial security than the first-world-problems of some Facebook exec who could afford t…

Americans' political education has been deliberately hobbled. An educated person (let alone a journalist) in most of the rest of the developed world (and lots of the developing world) would know instinctively not to call an executive a "worker". That said, I believe there probably are workers (in the sense of having the same class interests as other workers rather than the owners, like an executive does) in the Bay A…

The class division you're inferring just doesn't exist within Silicon Valley tech companies. Mid-level executives are overwhelmingly people who started as what you'd consider a worker and grew into that role. (There is something of a class divide between Silicon Valley companies, although not one that aligns well with typical Marxist analysis.)
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