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Re: Qwen 3.8

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Post by Suzuran »

sdoering wrote: post #628
cnhwl wrote: post #583

I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…

> human rights and all that rubbish Denying human rights. Classic. Sorry - you instantly lost any respect I could have maybe had for your opinion.

You are not allowed to discuss human rights until your government stops its unprovoked war on Iran, issues a full repudiation of the policies that led to it, and makes full reparations to the entire rest of the world whose energy prices you have driven up for the benefit of a handful of wealthy inside traders.

Edit: Parent poster wasn't American. I incorrectly assumed their nationality.

Re: Qwen 3.8

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Post by adornKey »

Anonyneko wrote: post #676
adornKey wrote: post #672

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case there is a decent forum about tech somewhere in the Alibaba cloud, I'll be interested. HN has built a certain unhealthy bias in a lot of subjects. But so far other places haven't gained enough traction, yet.

It's probably in Chinese, which would cut out most of us here.

Sounds like a decent challenge. Needs AI Translation built into the forum infrastructure... But I'd give it a try. Before there was AI, I chatted a few times successfully in Chinese only using some translation tools. Now with AI it should be even easier.

Re: Qwen 3.8

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Post by EchooAI »

Without a doubt, the Chinese models are going to overtake the American ones. In my opinion, this will happen this year!

Re: Qwen 3.8

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Post by raxxorraxor »

cnhwl wrote: post #583

I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…

Perfectly in agreement, but in many places politics were forced into geek spaces. Formerly nobody cared which country you came from.

I think anyone that used open models will have had contact with Qwen. China currently does the most work here, simple as that.

Re: Qwen 3.8

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Post by [deleted] »

cnhwl wrote: post #583

I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…

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Re: Qwen 3.8

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Post by black_knight »

Suzuran wrote: post #681
sdoering wrote: post #628

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> human rights and all that rubbish Denying human rights. Classic. Sorry - you instantly lost any respect I could have maybe had for your opinion.

You are not allowed to discuss human rights until your government stops its unprovoked war on Iran, issues a full repudiation of the policies that led to it, and makes full reparations to the entire rest of the world whose energy prices you have driven up for the benefit of a handful of wealthy inside traders. Edit: Parent poster wasn't American. I incorrectly assumed their nationality.

Or maybe the USians need to talk more about human rights, as opposed to just Amrican right? And maybe discuss other ethical and political issues in a rational way too. And less like everything is a fotball match with us agains them?

Re: Qwen 3.8

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Post by TomK32 »

cnhwl wrote: post #583

I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…

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Re: Qwen 3.8

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Post by TomK32 »

raxxorraxor wrote: post #685
cnhwl wrote: post #583

I’m a developer from China. So, is this what Hacker News is all about? Whenever a model comes from China, the comments section stops discussing its technical architecture, optimisation points or real-world performance, and instead starts going on about politics, human rights and all that rubbish? To be honest, we Chinese IT professionals possess a genuine geek spirit. That’s why you’re lagging behind in open-source c…

Perfectly in agreement, but in many places politics were forced into geek spaces. Formerly nobody cared which country you came from. I think anyone that used open models will have had contact with Qwen. China currently does the most work here, simple as that.

You might want to ignore politics all day long, but rather sooner than later it's politics that will creep into your life and take an interest in whatever things that politicians mis-understand about your little niche.
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