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Airbus Takes Flight from AWS

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I don't fully understand why companies use AWS. Is it a management driven or engineering driven decision? I assume management - in big companies some exec from Amazon comes to play golf, and in small companies the managers copy what the big companies are doing?

Allows you to move stuff from capex to opex while remaining in compliance and governance lines. They’re not idiots. A lot of thought went into it, and the idea it’s all just incompetent BS dreamt up on a golf course is madness.

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Re: Airbus Takes Flight from AWS

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post #46

I don't fully understand why companies use AWS. Is it a management driven or engineering driven decision? I assume management - in big companies some exec from Amazon comes to play golf, and in small companies the managers copy what the big companies are doing?

Allows you to move stuff from capex to opex while remaining in compliance and governance lines. They’re not idiots. A lot of thought went into it, and the idea it’s all just incompetent BS dreamt up on a golf course is madness.

Also incredible horizontal scale.

and vertical scale

and fuck fuck fuck load of features.

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I don't fully understand why companies use AWS. Is it a management driven or engineering driven decision? I assume management - in big companies some exec from Amazon comes to play golf, and in small companies the managers copy what the big companies are doing?

Smaller annual opex is far easier to get approved then large multiyear capex with deprecation.

AWS was also cheaper in the beginning but has been slowly ratcheting up the pricing making colocation or on-premise viable again for some workloads which have steady compute demands.

Re: Airbus Takes Flight from AWS

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My take is it's actually because of poor performance of internal teams. With a cloud provider, you can get an account by filling out a sign-up page and handing over a credit card. Internal teams will often hide behind Bureaucracy and a ticket system, with processes that make hosting a simple web app take multiple quarters. Now there are layered reasons for that, some of them with legitimate basis, but at the end of t…

We were contemplating just this as a lunch time conversation among few engineers. Why can’t we have a sort of internal currency in the company and let teams use it as their “budget” to get things done? Infra team’s budget is broken up by the “user teams’ budgets + markup. Think your team needs a rlasticsearch cluster of your own versus the “managed” one by the infra team’s? Spend your budget accordingly. Want an incr…

That is already how many big corps work, still it doesn't avoid the move to cloud or offshoring.

Re: Airbus Takes Flight from AWS

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I don't fully understand why companies use AWS. Is it a management driven or engineering driven decision? I assume management - in big companies some exec from Amazon comes to play golf, and in small companies the managers copy what the big companies are doing?

I can try to answer for US. We're small ( It's been ... messy. I'm not certain we'll stay. It's easier in the sense that we can bring up arbitrarily many new machines without needing to call Dell when a host gets full, but it's definitely not cheaper. And weirdball AWS-only things get in the way. Oh, and literally nothing is simple or easy in administration or setup. If I had it to do over again, I think I'd have bit…

It's not just AWS vs selfhost, it's AWS vs DO/Hetzner/Rackspace/random-VPS-provider

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#87
post #46

I don't fully understand why companies use AWS. Is it a management driven or engineering driven decision? I assume management - in big companies some exec from Amazon comes to play golf, and in small companies the managers copy what the big companies are doing?

Allows you to move stuff from capex to opex while remaining in compliance and governance lines. They’re not idiots. A lot of thought went into it, and the idea it’s all just incompetent BS dreamt up on a golf course is madness.

To be fair most compliance and governance stuff is dreamt up on a golf cause to cause lock-in

Re: Airbus Takes Flight from AWS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone went to "the cloud" because they want to make their IT problems someone else's problem. It's no different from the previous era of MSPs, except that there are now only, like, five MSPs in the world. Note: I mean the Google Docs and Microsoft 365 type of cloud not the AWS and Azure type of cloud

My take is it's actually because of poor performance of internal teams. With a cloud provider, you can get an account by filling out a sign-up page and handing over a credit card. Internal teams will often hide behind Bureaucracy and a ticket system, with processes that make hosting a simple web app take multiple quarters. Now there are layered reasons for that, some of them with legitimate basis, but at the end of t…

And now if you try to get a bug fixed or a new feature in GMail, it simply can't be done at all. Problem solved!

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#89
post #83

US tech does not understand or comprehend the amount of damage they’ve self inflicted in the last couple of years. There will be a steady drip of this in years to come, I suspect.

US Tech does understand, US Administration does not.

I doubt US tech understands.

For one, they are deeply in bed with the current administration (for any definition of current, past, and future).

For another, they fight tooth and nail any and all sovereignity of data even within their own walled gardens. See decade of battles by Google, Apple, Facebook etc. in the EU.

Re: Airbus Takes Flight from AWS

#90
post #46

I don't fully understand why companies use AWS. Is it a management driven or engineering driven decision? I assume management - in big companies some exec from Amazon comes to play golf, and in small companies the managers copy what the big companies are doing?

AWS were first and dominated.

Microsoft moved late with Azure, but as they had so many customers in B2B already with SQL Server and Office, that they soon grew market share. Google Cloud followed and acquired companies like Firebase to differentiate.

    Market Share 2026


    AWS 28%
    Azure 21%
    Google 14%

https://www.statista.com/chart/18819/worldwide-market-share-...
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