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I'm Done with Mullvad

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Re: I'm Done with Mullvad

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Personally I welcome more parties in the Swedish Riksdag.

It is also interesting how they may get their seat.

Örebropartiet is a local party to Örebro, but because they are getting a lot of votes in the local district election they may end up in a seat in the Riksdag, which is highly unusual.

Re: I'm Done with Mullvad

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I am also an immigrant to Sweden. And, to be fair, I also haven't integrated perfectly well (I scarcely speak Swedish)- but I pay a lot of taxes and I don't do any crimes. I would suspect that the Orebro party doesn't really have a problem with me, though they would start to have an issue if I started bringing my home countries problems with me, or if I started trying to bend society to my will- or if I never paid an…

I am a migrant FROM Sweden(to Switzerland) and the Swedes absolutely want you to speak Swedish. At least this has been my experience living in Switzerland. They prefer that I speak broken German rather than English. Even many who speak English flawlessly. But you will be tolerated if you are overall a net contributor, that is right.

Yes, that's fair, I think tolerated is the right word.

I'm tolerated for not speaking Swedish, but I would not be tolerated if I was a criminal, went directly against Swedish values loudly or was a net drain on society in some other way.

Re: I'm Done with Mullvad

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More than any other country... I'm not too sure about that, there are a lot of countries on this planet. What period are you looking at? I assume relative numbers. I'm also skeptical about your other claim that it's all linked to people that came to Sweden through refugee programs. Do you have any sources to back up your claims?

These are basic facts to anyone who has had any experience with Swedish society for hte last years. If YOU are claiming that the meteoric rise in violence in Sweden is not related to the insane levels of refugees from the middle east that came during the same period, the burden of proof is on YOU. NO country has gone through the same level of demographic change, unwanted by the Swedes, mind you. The Swedish populatio…

If they are basic facts, then it should be easy to provide evidence, no? Every time anyone asks for evidence, they’re shot down. That’s unhelpful for public discourse.

Re: I'm Done with Mullvad

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> As if it isn’t a problem that their CEO is supporting policies that go against everything that Mullvad stands for as a company. Mullvads mission is about privacy and against mass surveillance. That mission has nothing to do with their co-CEOs personal stance on immigration. I don't necessarily see the conflict of interest that the blog talks about?

Well that party wants to enact mass surveillance to protect the country from immigrants

> Making murder illegal doesn't imply that the government stalks you 24/7 to make sure you don't murder someone

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48967592

Re: I'm Done with Mullvad

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It's not a minor political activity, they're literally the main funding source of Sweden's Nazi party.

You are telling me that this party's platform is literally that Swedish decent people are superior... Full stop... Because that is the ethnofascist(Nazi) position. If so, I'd be keen to see clear evidence of that.

You really don't have to look far. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party#Immigration_...

Re: I'm Done with Mullvad

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You strongly implied you supported the Örebro party because they have strong opinions and you support people with strong opinions even when they are bad opinions. (Which is populism, by the way - it's another way of saying you're a populist.) If you give money to Mullvad you're giving a percentage of it through to Örebro. That's why people are boycotting Mullvad. No I don't think it's a honeypot, unless it's a total…

I support the co-founder - I believe that he would defend my views that he would disagree with more now that I know he has disagreeable views himself and runs a platform based on free speech -- it gives him "skin in the game" for privacy; and the more I see people screaming about how everything that isn't 100% globalism is actually a Nazi is making me even more sympathetic to him. Can you show me where you got the id…

> everything that isn't 100% globalism

My dude, he wants to expel all non-Swedes from Sweden.

Re: I'm Done with Mullvad

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Lots of discussion surrounding what ethnonationism is...

Ethnonationalism: Defined by shared ancestry, lineage, and cultural heritage. Membership is exclusive and inherited by birth, focusing on preserving a specific ethnic identity.

Civic Nationalism: Defined by shared political principles, values, and laws. Membership is inclusive and open to anyone who adheres to the state's legal framework, regardless of background.

Does the party call for remigration or a lower status for immigrants who have committed no crimes, found jobs and are not a disproportionate drain on the welfare state? To be ethnonationist, I believe they must call for that on the basis of us vs them. Perhaps someone can provide evidence of this. I haven't seen any. Seems like they are very upset about crime and welfare drain. Also they have a bunch other non immigration related positions that some might label as extreme.

Re: I'm Done with Mullvad

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I am a migrant FROM Sweden(to Switzerland) and the Swedes absolutely want you to speak Swedish. At least this has been my experience living in Switzerland. They prefer that I speak broken German rather than English. Even many who speak English flawlessly. But you will be tolerated if you are overall a net contributor, that is right.

Yes, that's fair, I think tolerated is the right word. I'm tolerated for not speaking Swedish, but I would not be tolerated if I was a criminal, went directly against Swedish values loudly or was a net drain on society in some other way.

Well, this guy's party would end that toleration because you don't have Swedish ancestry. Is that good?
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