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Re: HMD Touch 4G

#81
post #47

What is special about this? Does it cost $20? Is it a cheap smart phone (why do they call it a hybrid phone?) targetting India (mentioning of cricket)?

It says "Small phone". And it is indeed smaller than most smartphones. Apple never made a small smartphone, presumably because they need the big screen for their vending-machine-in-your-pocket to sell more content.

Ikko MindOne Pro is small phone, could be a usable device if it had better software

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#82
post #69

Ok, this is kinda cool. In case you wanted to read the actual specs: https://www.hmd.com/en_in/hmd-touch-4g/specs?sku=1GE001CPG30... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMD_Touch_4G RTOS Touch on a Unisoc T127... that's cool. Amazed they can get the price that low.

CPU: single A7, 1GHz RAM: 64MB LP-DDR2 Flash: 128MB NAND I think the OS is an update of the Mocor RTOS by the SoC vendor Unisoc. I am curious if there are 3rd party apps on this device. If nothing else, it would be a fun challenge to write apps for something constrained like this.

This doesn't seem very competitive: it's priced at ₹4,199 (€38,08) on HMDs store.

On Amazon France, you can buy an "Energizer U506S" for €40.19 with free shipping. And that one has:

CPU: 1.5Ghz 4-core (MT6739 from 2017)

RAM: 2GB

Flash: 32GB

(and has card slot, dual sim)

And it runs Android 13 Go edition (probably not well, but enough to run Whatsapp and such).

So this device is facing some competition at that price point. Probably in India you can get an android device with higher spec at that €40 price point than you can in Europe.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#83
post #53

Do it support Wifi hotspot? I will buyit instantly.

The linked page says that it can be a hotspot.

Then it can be very handy in terms of its usability of wifi hotspot devices. In case you want to access intenret remotely on your laptop or in your car.

And in developing countries, you have to register your phones imei and pay tax if the value of your phone is greater than certain amount. And in that cases the amount of tax is maybe 50% of the actual price of the phone. So your phone is basically a brick with camera. And you get carry a second phone, which is inconvinence. With this I can see the potential use of it. Small, simple and useful wifi hotspot device with actual ability to call like normal phone.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CPU: single A7, 1GHz RAM: 64MB LP-DDR2 Flash: 128MB NAND I think the OS is an update of the Mocor RTOS by the SoC vendor Unisoc. I am curious if there are 3rd party apps on this device. If nothing else, it would be a fun challenge to write apps for something constrained like this.

This doesn't seem very competitive: it's priced at ₹4,199 (€38,08) on HMDs store. On Amazon France, you can buy an "Energizer U506S" for €40.19 with free shipping. And that one has: CPU: 1.5Ghz 4-core (MT6739 from 2017) RAM: 2GB Flash: 32GB (and has card slot, dual sim) And it runs Android 13 Go edition (probably not well, but enough to run Whatsapp and such). So this device is facing some competition at that price p…

Those android phones will have a abysmal performance. I don’t know this device but it’s perfectly possible that a feature phone like this will provide good performance for its limited feature set on much lower specs.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#85
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The little print at the end says "Currently only available in India." I think that was made obvious by the big thing on the marketing website scroll about checking cricket scores.

Because India is the only country that cares about cricket? They're not even the only country in Asia where cricket's big.

I believe GP’s point is India is the place a company would highlight cricket scores above other marketing lines.

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#86
post #26

Why to put front and center that chat app? I mean, is not something that makes it unique, if the app itself can run in android and iOS then it is just a chat app, with far less users than i.e. whatsapp. At first I thought that it was an AI app, and reading more could find why that would be innovative, but no, just a chat app targeting the same phone users and the ones willing to install the app in other phone brands.

My guess is because this is not an Android phone and it is important to be able to chat with Android and iPhone users. The real question is why would iPhone and Android users install this app? https://www.hmd.com/en_in/about-hybrid-phones Edit: Requiring Google Play login to use this express chat app is pretty stupid in my opinion. Why do apps require Google Play login? Especially a Chinese app? I am on an Android ph…

HMD is Finnish

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#87
post #8

This is nothing new. It's a dumb-phone with a touchscreen. There were quite a few examples back in the day in the late 00s.

Even now, there's been a market for them. I know a few older people who have them

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#88

The device came out about a year ago: https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-HMD-Touch-4G-is-an-all-scr... It looks like it's still India-exclusive. I haven't heard much about it online, and with a dedicated chat app I would've expected to if it was a success. Did it bomb?

A dedicated app that's only compatible with itself and only have miniscule install count means nothing. I tried downloading it and it only even support 4 countries prefix at the moment. It's also not that cheaper compared to "proper" smartphone from other brands in that area. Notebookcheck says it's launched with 3999 rupees while I see Itel Zeno 10 is just 4769 rupees. With India's unskilled labor minimum monthly wa…

Reminds me of the myriad of secure encrypted apps that are available.

Problem is, unless you have people willing to jump ship, or technical friends who like to experiment. You're just chatting to yourself

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#89
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The linked page says that it can be a hotspot.

Then it can be very handy in terms of its usability of wifi hotspot devices. In case you want to access intenret remotely on your laptop or in your car. And in developing countries, you have to register your phones imei and pay tax if the value of your phone is greater than certain amount. And in that cases the amount of tax is maybe 50% of the actual price of the phone. So your phone is basically a brick with camera…

But why not just your standard Android for that?

I used to have an Android head unit in my old car, I used my phone hotspot for connectivity

Re: HMD Touch 4G

#90
post #31

Without WhatsApp support it will not go far.

> Without WhatsApp support it will not go far. Speaking of which, it is bizarre how the tables have turned. Whatsapp used to support everything under the sun... But now it is all Android and iPhone

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