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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just checked. They haven't published their political standpoints yet so it's too early to say. They claim they will soon, ahead of the elections.
How do we know anything about them?
You tell me, you claimed to know their plans. I don't know where you got that info from?
I checked the official source, which should be considered the authoritative source imo?
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agree and so sick of this being thrown around. Such an overreaction and mischaracterization. Being unable to evaluate an anti immigration party without labeling them ethnonationist shows a pretty glaring blind spot.
They said non-Swedish people would be expelled from the country. How isn't that ethnonationalist?
There may be people in the party who want to expel folks just because they are not 'Swedish'. I doubt that's the official party line. If it is, perhaps you can find me a citation on that.
The distinction is that a person can be ethnicity agnostic while being very strict about deporting immigrants who commit crimes. In the case of Sweden, it appears to me that the evidence indicates the primary concern is folks born to non-native parents. See the exert below from their Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention:
"The proportion of the various groups registered as suspects for any type of crime are as follows: • 3.2 percent of persons born in Sweden to two native-born parents (4.8 percent of men, 1.5 percent of women). • 5.9 percent of persons born in Sweden to one non-native parent (8.6 percent of men, 3.1 percent of women). • 10.2 percent of persons born in Sweden to two non-native parents (15.3 percent of men, 4.8 percent of women). • 8.0 percent of persons born abroad (12.2 of men, 3.9 percent of women)."
https://bra.se/download/18.45e4b8e192705389a34c2b/1729515966...
If I am a true-blue ethnonationalist, I want all non-Swedish ethnicities deported/remigrated or relegated to lower social status. This would be the Nazi position... White skin blue eyes = superior.
If I am a tough on crime migrant skeptic, I call for deportation of non-native's who commit crimes without concern for their specific ethnicity/origin. I can't be in the Nazi party, because I don't think German descent people are superior. I think anyone who migrates to our country and then commits crimes is undesirable. I would just as easily call for the deportation of any ethnic background.
I looked into this a bit, because I was curious if there was actual evidence driving these political movements. As it turns out, there is and it has been studied. The primary pain point(crime) comes in when the 2nd generation doesn't economically assimilate. If a non-native family economically assimilates they then apparently actually have lower likelihood of criminal activity than a native family.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did a quick search, among all of the articles are people even doing their thesis work on this problem: https://www.gu.se/sites/default/files/2025-10/The%20ripple%2...
> Sweden has, more than any other country, faced an astounding and shocking rise of intense violence and organized crime, with shootings in the middle of cities and cafés, all linked to people that were openly accepted through its refugee programs. You claimed two things that I took issue with: The rise of intense violence and organized crime is higher than in any other country. All those crimes are linked to people…
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More than any other country... I'm not too sure about that, there are a lot of countries on this planet. What period are you looking at? I assume relative numbers. I'm also skeptical about your other claim that it's all linked to people that came to Sweden through refugee programs. Do you have any sources to back up your claims?
These are basic facts to anyone who has had any experience with Swedish society for hte last years.
If YOU are claiming that the meteoric rise in violence in Sweden is not related to the insane levels of refugees from the middle east that came during the same period, the burden of proof is on YOU.
NO country has gone through the same level of demographic change, unwanted by the Swedes, mind you. The Swedish population was never in favor of this politics and explains the meteoric rise of Sverigedemokraterna, a party founded by literal Nazis(Gustaf Ekström, a Waffen-SS volunteer).
Why this happened, can be discussed in eternity. Probably to understand you should read The New Totalitarians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Totalitarians
You can start by checking mug photos.
I have migrated from Sweden and frequently return for work and for family visits. It's still a great country, if you avoid "certain areas". Weird, that these "certain areas" are predominately populated with strangers from a different part of the world who enjoy welfare benefits but either don't want, or can't integrate.
Re: I'm Done with Mullvad
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did a quick search, among all of the articles are people even doing their thesis work on this problem: https://www.gu.se/sites/default/files/2025-10/The%20ripple%2...
You use a very vague language to tie violence in Sweden to immigrants. Then you link a study without really going much about how the study supports your claims, as if that is evidence of what you suggest. You are gesturing to one thing - "there's a study on gang violence in Sweden" - and presenting it as evidence of another thing - "immigrants are to blame for gang violence". So I decided to engage with it and read t…
> So I decided to engage with it and read the damn thing
Huh, so did I... but clearly one of us didn't read it thoroughly enough.
The first sentence of the abstract says the surge in shootings is "disproportionately involving young men with immigrant backgrounds".
Page 2: people with an immigrant background are 80% of shooting victims and 64% of perpetrators (citing Brå).
You seem to just skip to the theory section page 13 regarding scapegoating.
To be fair, the original claim was overcooked in two places. "All linked" should be "most", and "more than any other country" needs a qualifier:
1) Brå compared Sweden with 22 other European countries. Sweden is the only one with a continuous rise in gun homicide since 2005
https://bra.se/english/publications/archive/2021-05-26-gun-h...
2) the OECD's own conclusion was that 2014–15 Sweden saw the largest per-capita inflow of asylum seekers ever recorded in an OECD country
https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/international-migration...
3) Brå's register study puts the relative risk of being a crime suspect at 2.5x for the foreign-born and 3.2x for the second generation, with excess risk remaining after controlling for age, sex, income and education
https://bra.se/english/publications/archive/2021-08-25-regis...
https://bra.se/download/18.45e4b8e192705389a34c2b/1729515966...
The most dangerous, then, are "Swedish" persons with a migrant background, born and raised in Sweden- I'm not sure how to answer that, but that's really uncomfortable.
4) None of this is a fringe reading. Magdalena Andersson (Social Democrat, then PM) said in 2022 that integration had failed and produced parallel societies feeding the gangs... Kristersen as PM (right wing) said the same thing a year later.. so it has some broad bipartisan agreement.
https://www.euronews.com/2022/04/29/us-sweden-immigration
https://www.government.se/speeches/2023/09/prime-minister-ul...
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did a quick search, among all of the articles are people even doing their thesis work on this problem: https://www.gu.se/sites/default/files/2025-10/The%20ripple%2...
You use a very vague language to tie violence in Sweden to immigrants. Then you link a study without really going much about how the study supports your claims, as if that is evidence of what you suggest. You are gesturing to one thing - "there's a study on gang violence in Sweden" - and presenting it as evidence of another thing - "immigrants are to blame for gang violence". So I decided to engage with it and read t…
First, I’m not your buddy, and that kind of condescending language doesn’t really help the discussion. Second, I assumed these issues were common knowledge since the frequent shootings in broad daylight that have rocked Sweden in the last couple of years have been from immigrant gang violence, and I mistakenly assumed everyone was aware of these news reports. But perhaps it’s only most obvious here in Europe.
There are other comments in this thread that are expressing the situation better than I am.
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#79This post seems like an overreaction to me. Being this sensitive to company leadership political activity is going to exhaust a person and time would be better spent being careful to buy products with minimal value added from authoritarian nations with a history of gross human rights issues. Lots of counties don't want immigration, especially after they let a large group in and deal with integration challenges. The C…
It's not a minor political activity, they're literally the main funding source of Sweden's Nazi party.
You are telling me that this party's platform is literally that Swedish decent people are superior... Full stop... Because that is the ethnofascist(Nazi) position.
If so, I'd be keen to see clear evidence of that.
Re: I'm Done with Mullvad
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
They said non-Swedish people would be expelled from the country. How isn't that ethnonationalist?
I am also an immigrant to Sweden. And, to be fair, I also haven't integrated perfectly well (I scarcely speak Swedish)- but I pay a lot of taxes and I don't do any crimes. I would suspect that the Orebro party doesn't really have a problem with me, though they would start to have an issue if I started bringing my home countries problems with me, or if I started trying to bend society to my will- or if I never paid an…
I am a migrant FROM Sweden(to Switzerland) and the Swedes absolutely want you to speak Swedish. At least this has been my experience living in Switzerland. They prefer that
I speak broken German rather than English. Even many who speak English flawlessly. But you will be tolerated if you are overall a net contributor, that is right.