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US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again

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Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again

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Crazy how cheap gasoline is in USA. $4 is still basically half as much as anywhere in Europe even when there isn't a war.

Americans also drive A LOT more than Europeans on average, and generally (is my suspicion at least) with a lot bigger/less efficient engines

Not too sure about the engines as of late. Bigger and heavier vehicles - yes, but still mostly rural/highway, and at way lower speeds than the EU. Overall, IMO it's just the distances involved.

Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again

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It should be $200 per gallon, we need to reduce depenency on petrol!

People will just buy diesel cars then. That happened in Europe, people bought diesel cars because it was cheaper, because of taxes. Not great for the environment.

Make $200 per gallon of diesel? This has the potential to collapse entire economies. Shipping will be more expensive, which will in turn make everything more expensive. Food will be more expensive too, tractors use diesel. Few things don't depend on diesel at some point or another.

Tax only the fuel used by cars? Many people still need their car to work, not every job can be remote, at $200 a gallon, you may as well quit, unless you get paid the difference, which again will increase the price of things.

Maybe a few decades from now, if could be $200 a gallon without breaking everything, but certainly not now.

Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again

#54

It should be $200 per gallon, we need to reduce depenency on petrol!

Sometimes countries can formulate energy policies that accomplish two goals at once.

They can keep taxes on refined petroleum products low in order to not destroy the present economy, while simultaneously fostering a budding renewable energy industry. USA is the second largest producer of renewable energy in the world behind only China. California + Texas by themselves rank 6th in the world.

Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again

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It's cheap but you also travel a lot in the US. Specially in the southern states because everything is so far. Anecdotal reference, my children's school is roughly 3 miles, so I spend a gallon of gas every day with 2 round-trips. That number was zero in Netherlands because all schools are either walkable or bike able. Supermarkets and restaurants are 5 miles away easily. Heck, my neighbor (door to door) is 0.4 miles.

3 miles is less than 5km. Perfectly fine by bicycle. Oh wait.. I guess you have too much freedom and no infrastructure other than highways so you gotta drive and burn all the fuel, time and money.

I live in the EU: I pay at least half my income in taxes, have less freedom due to insane bureaucracy, and the infrastructure around me isn't great (highways or pedestrian/bicycle). On top of that, fuel is double what it is in the US.

Whatever shortcomings there are in US society, it's not perfect in the EU either. That US freedom and infrastructure looks OK to me.

Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again

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Where are they getting it? Four weeks ago, the president said that in four weeks the country would run out of oil. Russia already ran out of gasoline.

Its China. They slashed oil imports massivly. They use their reserves (as a lot of other countries also do) to help asia.

Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again

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The iPhone is priced exactly like that. And so are most consumer products. See Steam games, cars, Netflix, …

>The iPhone

Apple asks the same amount of money afaik, the difference in EU is the tax, so...politicians.

Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again

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I suggest you not lookup the difference in price between an iPhone in the EU vs the US, then...

But that's tax. Which makes my point. If we ever had (almost) free electricity breakthrough we'd still pay relatively the same for it. Energy is one of the most important aspects and they'll never just give it away for free, regardless of how much it costs them. Why would they? They know we need it and they know how much we're willing to pay for it.

Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again

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> roughly 3 miles, so I spend a gallon of gas every day with 2 round-trips You get 12mpg?

> You get 12mpg? It's the USA, so he's probably dropping the kids to school in a pickup truck...

12gpm
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