I wonder what happens to that gas price once the SPR can no longer be drawn from?
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=W...
US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again
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Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
A big part of it is taxes, European countries tend to tax fuel pretty heavily. If heating oil is still a thing where you are, compare its prices to diesel (especially historically). They’re nearly the same product, the difference is almost entirely fuel taxes.
In the UK, farm vehicles use a specially dyed Red Diesel, which is the same liquid with a chemical added to it to turn it red. It’s taxed at a much lower rate, so you’ll sometimes pass petrol stations selling two Diesel from two different pumps, one of which is around half the price of the other. If you’re caught running red diesel on a normal carriageway, the penalty can be steep.
Apparently cat litter gets the red out and nobody ever gets dipped anyway
Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's cheap but you also travel a lot in the US. Specially in the southern states because everything is so far. Anecdotal reference, my children's school is roughly 3 miles, so I spend a gallon of gas every day with 2 round-trips. That number was zero in Netherlands because all schools are either walkable or bike able. Supermarkets and restaurants are 5 miles away easily. Heck, my neighbor (door to door) is 0.4 miles.
> roughly 3 miles, so I spend a gallon of gas every day with 2 round-trips You get 12mpg?
Two cold starts a day and a vehicle larger than a WW2 tank. Sounds believable.
Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's cheap but you also travel a lot in the US. Specially in the southern states because everything is so far. Anecdotal reference, my children's school is roughly 3 miles, so I spend a gallon of gas every day with 2 round-trips. That number was zero in Netherlands because all schools are either walkable or bike able. Supermarkets and restaurants are 5 miles away easily. Heck, my neighbor (door to door) is 0.4 miles.
> roughly 3 miles, so I spend a gallon of gas every day with 2 round-trips You get 12mpg?
> You get 12mpg?
It's the USA, so he's probably dropping the kids to school in a pickup truck...
Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again
#45Crazy how cheap gasoline is in USA. $4 is still basically half as much as anywhere in Europe even when there isn't a war.
Driving isn't nearly as important in Europe though.
American households spend 16% of their income on transportation, while European 11% on average.
https://itdp.org/2024/01/24/high-cost-transportation-united-...
In absolute numbers the gap is considerably wider due to differences in salaries. And all that while cars and fuel are significantly cheaper in the US.
In the co-working space I rent there are around 50 parking spots and half as much bicycle stands. In the warm period between the solstices the latter is packed and I have trouble finding a stand.
I started cycling mostly because they removed the free gravel parking area not counted in the usual spots, but I've found I don't miss driving as much as I thought I would.
Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's cheap but you also travel a lot in the US. Specially in the southern states because everything is so far. Anecdotal reference, my children's school is roughly 3 miles, so I spend a gallon of gas every day with 2 round-trips. That number was zero in Netherlands because all schools are either walkable or bike able. Supermarkets and restaurants are 5 miles away easily. Heck, my neighbor (door to door) is 0.4 miles.
In metric, 19.2km of driving burns 4.5 litres of petrol? Is that right? That seems absurdly high even for a large ute.
US gallon is 3.8 litres. Even so, that's pretty inefficient.
Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again
#47Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's cheap but you also travel a lot in the US. Specially in the southern states because everything is so far. Anecdotal reference, my children's school is roughly 3 miles, so I spend a gallon of gas every day with 2 round-trips. That number was zero in Netherlands because all schools are either walkable or bike able. Supermarkets and restaurants are 5 miles away easily. Heck, my neighbor (door to door) is 0.4 miles.
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I suggest you not lookup the difference in price between an iPhone in the EU vs the US, then...
Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again
#49Crazy how cheap gasoline is in USA. $4 is still basically half as much as anywhere in Europe even when there isn't a war.
There's a Jevons Paradox type thing where they ended up spending roughly the same to travel a mile due to Japan or the EU pushing for efficiency due to needing to import the fuel (might be visible in California too due to them fighting their geography that causes smog).
Possibly the EU is pulling ahead on price per mile now with the shift to EVs.
Re: US gas prices hit an average of $4 a gallon again
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the UK, farm vehicles use a specially dyed Red Diesel, which is the same liquid with a chemical added to it to turn it red. It’s taxed at a much lower rate, so you’ll sometimes pass petrol stations selling two Diesel from two different pumps, one of which is around half the price of the other. If you’re caught running red diesel on a normal carriageway, the penalty can be steep.
Apparently cat litter gets the red out and nobody ever gets dipped anyway
What could possibly go wrong :)
Filter your diesel through cat litter in your garage and fill up your £60k mercedes.
Feels like extra work I would really enjoy doing and also the wonderful smell.
And I can probably re-use the cat litter for pesticides, so i don't need to worry about disposing of it.
But otherwise i would probably recommend against it.