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Re: Xiaomi-Robotics-1

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this is what excites me most about the probable AI future. househelp is cheaply and easily accessible for most people in the east, however being able to afford a cleaner or maid in the west is a luxury. i spent a ginormous amounts of time every week keeping my house in shape. i look forward to the day when i will be able to carve out that time and get it back for myself.

I wonder, what will you do with that free time you will crave?

Work more for my boss and landlord so the fiefdom can survive.

Re: Xiaomi-Robotics-1

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In the domain of hardware, what is the equivalent of a harness? How well would this generalise to any robot, versus one that is specifically built the way Xiaomi did?

Considering that they pre-trained on non-robot data, and mid-trained on data from other robot types? I suspect that generalization would be decent for most similar platforms - things with 1 to 2 arms and 2-finger hands.

You'd probably have to fine tune for good performance on a specific arm type. But this model isn't trained against hard assumptions of what the underlying hardware is.

Re: Xiaomi-Robotics-1

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It can do it over 8 hours while you're sleeping though.

and cost more than a maid

Sure but that holds true for most new tech. Expensive and slow but it can only get better or stay the same. I'm thinking it's only going to get better.

Re: Xiaomi-Robotics-1

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How are these models compared to world models by Waymo and Tesla, assuming their models are trained for recognising objects that can be further generalized for everyday chores?

Compared how? Architecturally? In training methods? In performance?

The remarkable thing about this modern "full VLA" approach is that it doesn't train for an explicit "world model" at all. There's no factored world state, no pool of trajectory rollouts being sampled from. Instead, everything is rolled into the same VLA stack that does all of it internally.

The world model exists, but it's implicit - the VLA learns one, but only because it helps its training objectives. Trajectories are planned ahead sometimes, also implicitly, for the same reasons.

It's a very "bitter lesson" way of doing things.

As far as I know, Tesla's stack is somewhat similar architecturally - a highly integrated end to end model - but the training process for FSD does include factored "world modeling" side objectives to force the stack to develop driving-relevant internal world representations. So it's in a middle ground between a classic "world model" system and this flavor of VLA - albeit surprisingly close to the latter.

Whether the world modeling side objectives are principled and justified or a leftover from the days of insufficient scale is unclear.

Re: Xiaomi-Robotics-1

#136

I'm not sure why some comments here are so pessimistic. I was grinning ear to ear while seeing the video. You're telling me we've finally got robots that can do our laundry? And the model is at least as free as beer? To quote the lyrics/meme, we used to pray for times like this . This is what robotics should be used for.

> I'm not sure why some comments here are so pessimistic.

Time and time and time and time and time again, technologists are always naïve to never realize that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

I am expecting the opposite effect to happen with the actual use of robotics. Mass displacement of every sector of labor.

This is not ruled out.

Re: Xiaomi-Robotics-1

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Working past your personal bedtime, part of an imaginary movement of millions might, ignoring the negative aspects of AI, empowered like commanding an army. This frankly sound psychotic, and it's exactly why uncontrolled AI usage is seen so critical by many. And all other devs will leave the field just because they prefer to work differently? That is not only not realistic, it is violence fuel.

You will have to work long nights when you try to build a business of your own while continuing to work a regular job.

Talking about psychosis and "violence fuel" while handwaving at negative aspects of AI does not seem substantial.

I would be more curious to hear details about how OP built the claimed businesses.

I will not see this info here if people who build things and are enthusiastic about AI are driven away by downvotes and negative comments.

Re: Xiaomi-Robotics-1

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> You're telling me we've finally got robots that can do our laundry? Did you watch it actually fold that shirt? Super slow and bad at it.

> Super slow and bad at it Eh, this still has value for me if it can do it reliably. Leaving a robot to badly fold my t-shirts overnight and then badly put them in my closet the next day is fine. I don't need my casual wear beautifully folded. But I do need it organised, and that's apparently a chore I'll just never learn to like doing.

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Re: Xiaomi-Robotics-1

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> Super slow and bad at it Eh, this still has value for me if it can do it reliably. Leaving a robot to badly fold my t-shirts overnight and then badly put them in my closet the next day is fine. I don't need my casual wear beautifully folded. But I do need it organised, and that's apparently a chore I'll just never learn to like doing.

Absolutely! Also if this scale anywhere close to LLMs in 2 years they will fold at super human speed and much better than me.

The real question is whether a hardware platform today would be good enough.

The model is software on a server or in the cloud, so the real question is are there any show stoppers from the hardware for going faster?

Re: Xiaomi-Robotics-1

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I'm not sure why some comments here are so pessimistic. I was grinning ear to ear while seeing the video. You're telling me we've finally got robots that can do our laundry? And the model is at least as free as beer? To quote the lyrics/meme, we used to pray for times like this . This is what robotics should be used for.

> You're telling me we've finally got robots that can do our laundry? Did you watch it actually fold that shirt? Super slow and bad at it.

Is a Chinese robot vacuuming and mopping my floor every day? Yes it is. Could I do it better manually? Absolutely. I still prefer the robot to do an ok job than to do it myself.
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