anyone know how you can build a water-resistant phone with a removable battery?
We've had devices like this forever.
A: add a gasket.
B: glueseal everything except for the battery, connected via exposed gold pads.
EU Exempts Apple Watch and AirPods from Battery Removal Requirements
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Re: EU Exempts Apple Watch and AirPods from Battery Removal Requirements
#12anyone know how you can build a water-resistant phone with a removable battery?
The current issue with battery replacement is mainly the fact that they're glued to the phone. Which make them very dangerous to replace, as newbie might try to pry off the battery with metal tools (and you don't want to know what happens when a lithium battery is pierced.) The only thing that will change as far as I know is that battery won't be glued anymore. You'll still have to open the phone with screw like you…
They can still glue the battery in, they just have to do it in a removable way.
If you've ever swapped a battery in a phone you would know that there are special battery adhesive foils for DIY battery swaps that have a tab that lets you pull on the adhesive foil and thereby remove the the battery much more easily.
Re: EU Exempts Apple Watch and AirPods from Battery Removal Requirements
#13This seems kind of obvious. How many Apple Watches and AirPods have ever become obsolete due to their batteries not being replaceable? I’d guess the number is pretty close to zero, these devices aren’t used for long enough for this to become a problem. If the goal was to sell more AirPods, not implementing “Find My” for them would’ve been a much better strategy.
You allude to another reason people stop using them, besides battery degradation and loss, what is it?
Re: EU Exempts Apple Watch and AirPods from Battery Removal Requirements
#14So the dummies just gave Apple a competitive advantage?
It will be all such devices, not specifying a manufacturer by name.
Re: EU Exempts Apple Watch and AirPods from Battery Removal Requirements
#15This seems kind of obvious. How many Apple Watches and AirPods have ever become obsolete due to their batteries not being replaceable? I’d guess the number is pretty close to zero, these devices aren’t used for long enough for this to become a problem. If the goal was to sell more AirPods, not implementing “Find My” for them would’ve been a much better strategy.
My first gen AirPods became e-waste in 18 months due to the battery no longer lasting through a meeting. My AirPods Pro 2 have lasted a lot longer but I'm sure then they do die it will be due to the batteries.
Re: EU Exempts Apple Watch and AirPods from Battery Removal Requirements
#16This seems kind of obvious. How many Apple Watches and AirPods have ever become obsolete due to their batteries not being replaceable? I’d guess the number is pretty close to zero, these devices aren’t used for long enough for this to become a problem. If the goal was to sell more AirPods, not implementing “Find My” for them would’ve been a much better strategy.
You allude to another reason people stop using them, besides battery degradation and loss, what is it?
Loss obviously being the #1.
Dropping, and then stepping on them seems like a common failure mode.
Dirt can stop the charging, most people will just replace instead of cleaning.
Even replacing the rubber tips is probably too much to expect from most people.
Re: EU Exempts Apple Watch and AirPods from Battery Removal Requirements
#17This seems kind of obvious. How many Apple Watches and AirPods have ever become obsolete due to their batteries not being replaceable? I’d guess the number is pretty close to zero, these devices aren’t used for long enough for this to become a problem. If the goal was to sell more AirPods, not implementing “Find My” for them would’ve been a much better strategy.
You allude to another reason people stop using them, besides battery degradation and loss, what is it?
Loss or breakage.
I had the original AirPods and vowed to never buy them again because replacing the battery was so expensive.
Just ridiculous to throw away expensive audio equipment because battery replacement is as expensive as 50% of a new pair.
While good headphones from the 70s are still good, maybe with some foam replacements.
Re: EU Exempts Apple Watch and AirPods from Battery Removal Requirements
#18This seems kind of obvious. How many Apple Watches and AirPods have ever become obsolete due to their batteries not being replaceable? I’d guess the number is pretty close to zero, these devices aren’t used for long enough for this to become a problem. If the goal was to sell more AirPods, not implementing “Find My” for them would’ve been a much better strategy.
> How many Apple Watches and AirPods have ever become obsolete due to their batteries not being replaceable? Every single pair of AirPods I've had has died due to one of them not charging anymore. I assume it's the battery. No idea where/how/who looks into this though, so I've just bought new ones.
This is probably just your AirPods or the case getting dirty, doesn’t sound like a failing battery at all.
Re: EU Exempts Apple Watch and AirPods from Battery Removal Requirements
#19>some products, such as medical devices and so-called “wet appliances” (for example, electric toothbrushes or water flossers), are already exempt from this requirement, mainly for safety reasons. In these cases, batteries only need to be removable and replaceable by independent professionals. Note: this is exemption from user replacing battery themselves, not a blanket exemption on the product not being serviceable f…
IMO they entire law should have been target at "replaceable by independent professionals", it is reasonable to require industry standard professional equipment for opening and working on a phone
Re: EU Exempts Apple Watch and AirPods from Battery Removal Requirements
#20Electric toothbrushes are exempt? Why?
We have several for our kids, with removable batteries from Oral-B. All are years old and still waterproof. And with that amount of voltage, where can there _ever_ be a "safety issue"? That is quackery!
Sounds more like somebody lobbied successfully.