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Korg PS-3300 is back

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Re: Korg PS-3300 is back

#41
There is a free emulator here:

https://www.fullbucket.de/music/fb3300.html

The PS-3300 is a 3 layer synth with 49 voices where each voice has its own VCO/VCF/VCA. So you end up with 16 voices when you use 3 layers. It has microtunality and a reverb for each of the layers.

Here is a sound demo:

https://soundcloud.com/full-bucket/fr33ze?utm_source=clipboa...

Re: Korg PS-3300 is back

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It must be understood that, unlike grand pianos, the building containing an installed pipe organ is integral to its operation and sound, so their costs, construction and maintenance are inextricably linked for the lifetime of the instrument.

Unless, of course, Cameron Carpenter is involved: https://archive.is/DQQq0 https://www.marshallandogletree.com/opus8 …though it was in fact maintenance costs that did in the I.T.O., may it rest in peace… > “It travels in a 53-foot truck,” he says. “It has workshop and carpenter facilities that travel with the organ at all times. It has a massive accoutrement of spare parts. And it has two sound systems.” > The system…

No, no no.

I am sorry to burst your bubble here, but that electronic organ is most definitely not a pipe organ. These are two completely different types of instruments.

It is perfectly fine to take a gigantic electronic organ, its manual, its accessories, and box it up and drop it into whatever "enclosure" you have booked for a concert. Because an electronic organ is not intricately intertwined with its enclosing building/room. That's a key differentiator.

You could really never design a "portable pipe organ" because it's simply unheard of. Like a square circle. A pipe organ's pipes are custom-fitted and custom-tuned to the space. "Transplanting" a pipe organ to a different space would probably be more difficult and error-prone than just creating a new opus altogether.

Donald Knuth's pipe organ, on the other hand, is a bona fide pipe organ, and very much deserves to be installed in its own custom-built room.

A church where I used to sing had a very lovely choir loft, and one of the music directors had been an aficionado of "Early Music", and he had caused the parish to install a pipe organ in that choir loft. Sadly, the pipe organ was more of a "theatre" type than a "church" type, and it was also maddeningly difficult to maintain with the variations in humidity and temperature up there. There was a larger-than life stained-glass window in the western wall, and San Diego's setting Sun did a number on us every evening.

So eventually, they superseded it with an electronic organ, and they did this by just plopping the new manual in the midst of the loft, even before they were able to hire a crane with a crew to dislodge the deprecated pipe organ. The electronic organ was fantastic, though, because there were two directors who knew how to play it, and it had all kinds of MIDI/programming features that placed it head-and-shoulders above the pipe organ's best days.

Re: Korg PS-3300 is back

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Am I the only one who takes these “legends returns“ for a lack of innovation? Noticed that for a while in triple A gaming. I get it, companies are playing safe, but I don’t want to be sold the same thing over and once again.. Edit: typo

> I don’t want to be sold the same thing over and once again.

I don't want to be sold the same music, algorithmically recreated again and again to maximise profit while circumventing copyright law.

A lot of people like analogue music. I certainly do, and I wonder if Korg are anticipating a reaction to the slop.

Re: Korg PS-3300 is back

#44
post #41

There is a free emulator here: https://www.fullbucket.de/music/fb3300.html The PS-3300 is a 3 layer synth with 49 voices where each voice has its own VCO/VCF/VCA. So you end up with 16 voices when you use 3 layers. It has microtunality and a reverb for each of the layers. Here is a sound demo: https://soundcloud.com/full-bucket/fr33ze?utm_source=clipboa...

wow - that site has lots of emulators. very nice. thanks

Re: Korg PS-3300 is back

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If it's purchased as an idle showpiece toy, then sure talent is optional. There will be a few old school Brian Eno adjacent types who'll want one to make noise with ... and some talent will be requisite to avoid sounding like a bag of cats being poked with a stick.

I, for one, specialize my sonic practice in immersive cat-yowl soundscapes…

What are things Ronald Erle Grainer demanded of Delia Derbyshire?

Re: Korg PS-3300 is back

#46
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> but I'm glad they exist for professional musicians to use The irony is that a professional musician in most cases has less budget to buy those expensive things than someone working e.g. as a teacher or clerc.

Musicians who landed a successful sync licensing deal, have that kind of money. Likewise producers who got points on something that took off. Anyway, $11,000 for a musical instrument is not that much for a musical instrument even when it is a lot of hamburgers for a given musician.

what is "sync licensing deal"?

Re: Korg PS-3300 is back

#47
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Very curious about the design, wish they’d show more photos and say more about it. Where are all those cables stored? Is the keyboard supposed to fold into the main case somehow? Reminds me a bit of the C100 “developer terminal”: https://caligra.com/c100/ (which I just noticed is now shipping)

Well it's remake of an old synthesizer, there's plenty of information and pictures about the original.

The remake isn't going to be exactly the same as the original. It is sensible to want more photos of the new units.

Re: Korg PS-3300 is back

#48
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Am I the only one who takes these “legends returns“ for a lack of innovation? Noticed that for a while in triple A gaming. I get it, companies are playing safe, but I don’t want to be sold the same thing over and once again.. Edit: typo

I agree and even when they offer something new, they stick close to well established topologies generally just adding in more. I don't need 8 flavors of filter that I have to scroll through with a single button, just give me one or two good ones. Great that you are giving me four envelops but if they all trigger at the same time it is not that useful, provide some other way to trigger them or give us a trigger delay. Distortion after the filter? why? put it before so I can shape it, I can apply post filter distortion outside the box if I want it and there it can take advantage of the envelope's dynamics. But thanks for giving me a tincan reverb and a delay that can't be clocked by the LFOs or even synced.

There are so many simple things they could do to greatly increase what these synths are capable of, but they don't.

Oh, and give me a way to wipe the memory or at least a bank of empty patches so I don't have to delete a preset every single time or make an empty patch to save over the presets or make a file of empty patches on the computer that I can copy over through midi.

I could go on, 30 years of hitting my head against the same walls. I am almost at the point of building my own synth and a bela and a pi-zero would make it pretty easy to do, but I haven't quite gotten irritated enough to do it, would rather spend that time making music.

Re: Korg PS-3300 is back

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post #20

Am I the only one who takes these “legends returns“ for a lack of innovation? Noticed that for a while in triple A gaming. I get it, companies are playing safe, but I don’t want to be sold the same thing over and once again.. Edit: typo

It's for collectors. There's no musical value in a polyphonic analogue synthesizer.
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