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Re: Show HN: I replaced a $120k bowling center system with $1,600 in ESP32s

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Heh - do you have a "blog" (ala jwz's DNA Lounge)? (This is the kind of retiring from IT tale that I love to read and follow the trials and tribulations of over the years - good luck, thanks for open-sourcing your work!)

That one was perhaps more of a cautionary tale, given the economics.

Re: Show HN: I replaced a $120k bowling center system with $1,600 in ESP32s

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We just charge a flat rate with shoes included. We do $5 / person or $25 for a whole hour for larger groups. Wanted to take some of the advanced calculus out of the price of bowling, yknow?

What is wrong with you, you’re going to ruin capitalism not caring about maximizing profits.

spare me your humanitarian sarcasm

Re: Show HN: I replaced a $120k bowling center system with $1,600 in ESP32s

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Back when I was in school I interned at a company installing bowling lanes / machines. Even back then it was fairly simple technology, no cameras or speed measurement yet, just some inputs from the machine as to what pin-cords had been pulled out (i.e. what pins fell down) translated to some simple animations. I remember the screens being just a simple VIA motherboard running DOS + their software from a compact flash…

In the US tethered pins with cords aren't really a thing, instead most bowling alleys use mechanical pinsetter machines. These machines are large, complex, and expensive (see here for a video on how they work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iod6uwUGM2E ) which is why he's talking about the equipment being 70+ years old- with the revenues most bowling alleys make, it's not economical to replace a pinsetter instead of…

Pinsetters scare the everloving fuck out of me.

I did a bit of work for a bowling alley 30 years ago. The guy that had just bought it wanted their 1970s computers brought up to the spec of the 1990s ;-) He'd retired from an incredibly well-paying job offshore so was well and truly familiar with working on large electrical machinery on oil platforms.

Day one - before he even turned the main incomer breaker on in his new bowling alley - the very first thing he did was sit everyone down in the dark and silent cafe and explain the idea behind and importance of LOTO. He didn't want to see anyone near any of the machinery without it locked out and tagged out, ever, for any reason, not even near it. As I recall the phrase "never work in this industry again" was used several times.

Re: Show HN: I replaced a $120k bowling center system with $1,600 in ESP32s

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Thank you for posting this, it reaffirms what I've been thinking for so long. There are many opportunities to retrofit old systems of all types with modern low-cost embedded technologies. Around 2019 or so I was approached by an engineer who had a small business retrofitting very old machine tools with modern motion controls. Think very large lathes and planers. The problem they had was that in order to get these sys…

Yup. I live on a river. We flooded catastrophically in 2019, which made me suddenly care about the government’s network of river level meters. Turns out, they abandoned most of them in 2008, as it was the local council who were meant to maintain them, but they couldn’t afford it - a chat with the president revealed they’d been paying €15k a year for each station to maintain it and they’d cost about €100k each. I went…

They didn't offer any of the €15k a year to you, did they?

Re: Show HN: I replaced a $120k bowling center system with $1,600 in ESP32s

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I’m living in an R&R desert myself, with some nice big abandoned shops, and have always wondered about the economics of building something. It amazes me how expensive a bowling alley actually is. Fantastic work in getting your costs way down, and doing something so genuinely useful for a wider audience. Hopefully other small bowling alleys will find this and try it out

Re: Show HN: I replaced a $120k bowling center system with $1,600 in ESP32s

#239

Have you thought about starting a youtube channel? I would love to hear more about the tech and the business.

Unless you have a stay at home spouse or teenage child who wants a video editing hobby it's usually just a huge time sink.

Even setting up camera, lights - etc. goes in the way of doing things. Then someone would have to narrate it, and so on.

Re: Show HN: I replaced a $120k bowling center system with $1,600 in ESP32s

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I nominate this post as an archetypal example of content that belongs on the Hacker News site. Thank you for sharing; I'm so glad for you that it worked out.

Indeed, and it's filled with top-level filler comments unfortunately.
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