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Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by calmingsolitude »

8jy89hui wrote: post #65

I tried using Orion mobile for months but I just kept running into so many UI bugs that I had to switch away from it :(. I love Kagi, but Orion just feels unpolished right now

I still use it because I like how easy it is to use extensions on iOS but definitely agree that there are a lot of UI bugs. Listing the most prominent ones just in case the dev is around:

- At times, the search bar text disappears and the "refresh page" icon is left aligned (instead of right aligned).

- When a link has an associated app that can open it, Orion opens a modal that asks whether you'd like to open it in-app or continue on the browser. However, sometimes it immediately opens the app and shows the modal once you navigate back.

- When using a custom search engine, you can no longer use the search bar to edit your query and it just shows the url.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by giamma »

villish wrote: post #11

The best feature is being able to use Firefox extensions and thus uBlock Origin and sponsorblock on iOS. It's a little buggy but worth it for me.

As a Firefox user, I make extensive usage of the location bar and the fact that Firefox allows you to search in history, bookmarks etc. etc.

It's so convenient to me, that I rarely use bookmarks. I keep a large history, and Firefox will efficiently allow me to find web sites I previously visited because it will effectively search in my browsing history when I type one or more words in the location bar, looking not only into the URL but also into the title.

This is something that I always miss when I try a different browsers. Also, while Mozilla Foundation has many issues, Firefox is opensource. I am looking forward into Ladybird but it will take time before it's usable. Until then, Firefox remains my favorite browser.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by whereistejas »

8jy89hui wrote: post #65

I tried using Orion mobile for months but I just kept running into so many UI bugs that I had to switch away from it :(. I love Kagi, but Orion just feels unpolished right now

that was my experience as well. in my case, i kept running into issues with using chrome plugins.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by colordrops »

yellowapple wrote: post #81

The Linux beta feels nice. Built-in ad-blocking and nested vertical tabs satisfies the two main things keeping me on Firefox (unnerfed uBlock Origin and Tree Style Tabs, respectively). Some things feel like obvious oversights, like the lack of “Search for...” when right-clicking on selected text. Also some of the settings pages are broken (like the one with per-site settings), though I assume this is just a quirk of…

I think FOSS is far better. Restrictive licenses lead to much less people inspecting and working with the code.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

c16 wrote: post #116
matheusmoreira wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Built-in ad-blocking Definitely enjoying this trend. I think Brave was the first to do it, and now Kagi is doing it too in their own browser. The web without adblocking is so unusable it might as well be considered broken. Ad blockers are the new popup blockers: they should be built into the browsers themselves as first class features. Only conflicts of interest prevented that. Couldn't trust a company funded by Go…

As an ad-blocker user for years, I agree. On the flip side, how do blogs, news, and every day ad-serving websites survive without them? If it dies, it dies? Maybe this is not a discussion for here right now. But it's definitely something I've thought of. Not everyone want to pay for news.

> how do blogs, news, and every day ad-serving websites survive without them?

Same as they do now. The quality ones charge for their content. The low-quality ones survive on serving ads to the masses.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

jorvi wrote: post #104
cantalopes wrote: post #96

I am not supporting kagi since i found out they fund putin's war via yandex that is fully owned ditrctly by state

Yandex divested their Russian side of the business and are Dutch.

> Yandex divested their Russian side of the business and are Dutch

Source for Kagi switching to Nebius Group [1] from Yandex?

(I care deeply about the war in Ukraine. But I'm still a happy Kagi user. I would like the option to exclude Yandex from my results. It reduces the effectiveness of the search engine. But that's a choice I'd prefer to be able to make myself. I'm not sure if that's realistic to offer to every user at scale, however.)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebius_Group

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by antnisp »

roundabout-host wrote: post #105

I find it interesting that it uses GTK, something quite unusual for a proprietary app. In any case, I am not using it, because I don't want to use a nonfree WWW browser.

Surprisingly, this is what the Webkit project uses for Linux, so that's why they chose it too.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by roblabla »

jorvi wrote: post #102
yellowapple wrote: post #81

The Linux beta feels nice. Built-in ad-blocking and nested vertical tabs satisfies the two main things keeping me on Firefox (unnerfed uBlock Origin and Tree Style Tabs, respectively). Some things feel like obvious oversights, like the lack of “Search for...” when right-clicking on selected text. Also some of the settings pages are broken (like the one with per-site settings), though I assume this is just a quirk of…

Are browser UIs themselves vectors for serious exploits? Orion uses WebKit and I assume they try to track as close to the release branch as possible. So if you trust WebKit, you can trust Orion. Personally I'm more of a Brave guy though, despite having been a Kagi user since 2024 :). What I'd really wish for is an EU browser that 'just works'. Vivaldi is nice but it often has papercuts because it has a small team beh…

There’s a lot of ways you can hold an engine wrong. Some 3rd party browser (often by security vendors…) have been vulnerable to exploits due to not compiling it with all the hardening options, or injecting vulnerable extensions that expose an attack surface to the webpage, for instance.
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