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I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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ask street-bbq vendor or cleaning-lady or uber-driver what is a "GitHub"

If you can learn to make a hamburger, with or without AI, they can learn to manage their site.

Of course not.

Or at least they won't enjoy it.

Physical activity is enjoyable for most people, whereas mental is painful.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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I’ve never had an rss on any blog/site I’ve ever hosted and never felt like I’m missing anything What is the advantage to me of maintaining an rss? Is there some giant rss feed following community I’m missing?

Do you think I'll just check manually every day to see if you wrote a new post? That for each and every blog I follow? That's like comparing old school Windows software updating where you "just have to go on the website and read the news" vs `apt update && apt upgrade`.

My assumption was that nobody checks rss feeds since the iPhone came out anymore, but apparently I’m wrong

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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If IndieWeb wants content, burying it under a ton of tech soup is the exact opposite of what they claim they want. How do the developers not realise that this set of protocols is completely unworkable for 90% of users? Please stop developing systems where the engineering is front and centre. If you want to put content UX first, you need to do exactly that, with a one-click solution that gets users up and running inst…

Doing a quick look over the article and your comment, I gotta agree. If you want stupid simple and content first, why wouldn't you use the gemini protocol? Pages are in mark down, no way to embed gotchas in it.

Its not one click, but is massively simple and building up tooling around it to make it easier would also be super simple.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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They're not just "important", a blog without RSS/Atom feed is like a car without wheels.

I’ve never had an rss on any blog/site I’ve ever hosted and never felt like I’m missing anything What is the advantage to me of maintaining an rss? Is there some giant rss feed following community I’m missing?

Chrome mobile used to have a native RSS Following feature since 2021.

https://blog.chromium.org/2021/05/an-experiment-in-helping-u...

It seems they killed it in 2025, maybe to make space for the AI button.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Indieweb is sometimes tied to self-hosting to give people configurabilty and flexibilty. It does keep indieweb for the few and not the many.

Rather than self-hosting, IndieWeb advocate for managing hosting; like GitHub Pages or similar.

IndieWeb could and should find ways to make self-hosting turn key.

Some examples of that exist for sure.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Its initial 7 steps: having your domain, managing your site, creating your pages... are quite accessible. There is some unavoidable complexity, such as configuring DNS. However, with interest and AI, there are no real limitations.

Of course https://xkcd.com/2501/

Haha, I had to laugh a lot about this.

This is essentially DNS, every single step of the way. Hosting wouldn't be hard if ISPs weren't so hostile with carrier-grade NATs, if HTTP/S wouldn't rely on DNS primarily, if legitimization were using actually mTLS instead... and all of the things usually break because of DNS and (lack of) proper standardization.

DNS in its current form is such a shitshow of RFCs overriding RFCs overriding RFCs...and not a single moment was spent on the configuration of DNS, or a protocol to request a domain, or a protocol to authenticate a domain, or a protocol to host something for a domain, ...

/nerdrage

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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A CV on your personal domain is the most IndieWeb thing you can do, it means your professional identity lives under your control, not LinkedIn's. The "anarchy symbol on expensive clothes" critique works when someone claims to reject the system while feeding it. IndieWeb does not claim to reject professionalism, it claims that your content should belong to you and outlive any platform. The headshot, the CV, the polish…

When i think about being indie, I think about the era when personal websites were not meant to be money business and the common sense on the internet was to adopt a pseudonym and never tell anyone where you live. Having a CV seems antithetical to the entire idea of indieness.

IndieWeb wasn't born as an anti-capitalist movement, but rather at a time when protocols were more prevalent than content. If you review its core principles, everything revolves around creating, sharing, and persevering over time. Companies aren't the enemy.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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The Internet is already independent - warez and torrents amd smuggling sites and groups prove this Anyone can go right now to a DNS registry and set up a url with tld and as many redirects as needed and host locally or remote servers.

Managing or owning your own server is already a way to decentralize the network. You can always do it like in the old days and ask your friends to add your IP to your host file.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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What does "neutral" mean? Which ones are more neutral ones? Any examples of issues with Google, or with the more neutral ones?

Ultimately controlled by a country "more neutral" than the USA. Looks like .me is not neutral.

As far as I understand, everything ends up centralized to USA anyway (ICANN), who then tells everyone what TLDs are allowed or not.
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