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Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture

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Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe, maybe not. The "proofs" may not have helped at all with finding a counterexample. Either way, it doesn't matter. A counterexample was found, no one found one before even though clearly a lot of people have tried who also had access to the prior "proofs".

This makes me wonder, what if anyone uses Fable-class LLM and passes of its novel results as their own work? There's no shortage of folks doing that in software, right now.

I think everyone assumes most, if not all of the code written in a piece of new software is done by AI.

Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture

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For all thehubbub, as far as I know, all the math breakthroughs via AI that I've heard about have come from Anthropic and OpenAI, not Chinese models. I could have missed those announcements, but one might think that between close to frontier performance plus cheap tokens, that they'd be leading the way on these things.

Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture

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For all thehubbub, as far as I know, all the math breakthroughs via AI that I've heard about have come from Anthropic and OpenAI, not Chinese models. I could have missed those announcements, but one might think that between close to frontier performance plus cheap tokens, that they'd be leading the way on these things.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture

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post #112

This is a rare instance where feeding this groundbreaking information into an LLM gives _them_ psychosis. I fed this to claude code and watched it verify the result in 7 different ways to be 100% certain, and it was just flabbergasted. Quite remarkable.

I read some thinking traces someone posted on X, and yeah, near psychosis from refusing to believe this simple of a solution had not been found already

Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture

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For all thehubbub, as far as I know, all the math breakthroughs via AI that I've heard about have come from Anthropic and OpenAI, not Chinese models. I could have missed those announcements, but one might think that between close to frontier performance plus cheap tokens, that they'd be leading the way on these things.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Are you sure that this applies?

Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture

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post #62

But I'm curious—can Fable handle cases where n=2 as well?

Wasn't it proven true in general for n=2

(NGL I wanted to suggest someone to go for the JC using 5.6 after the CDC proof came out, but then on reflection felt I should neither waste people's time NOR contribute to the myth of AI :)

My prediction is that the bubble will burst in 2031 Q4, one year after the Riemann Hypothesis is expected to fall (according to Demis)

After 2031, I will suggest going for the JC for N=4 because they would (dis)prove the Dixmier conjecture for N=2 :)

https://xcancel.com/BrunsJulian1541/status/20790734625601334...

https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.06959

Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture

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I just fed this to GPT 5.6 Sol: Counterexample to Jacobian conjecture: ((1+xy)^3 z + y^2 (1+xy) (4+3xy), y + 3 x (1+xy)^2 z + 3 x y^2 (4+3xy), 2 x - 3 x^2 y - x^3 z): \C^3\to \C^3, has jacobian determinant -2, and sends (0, 0, -1/4), (1, -3/2, 13/2), and (-1, 3/2, 13/2) to (-1/4, 0, 0) GPT wrote some SymPy code to check it. The response? "As written, this is an explicit counterexample to the Jacobian conjecture. I ch…

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Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture

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For all thehubbub, as far as I know, all the math breakthroughs via AI that I've heard about have come from Anthropic and OpenAI, not Chinese models. I could have missed those announcements, but one might think that between close to frontier performance plus cheap tokens, that they'd be leading the way on these things.

I mean of course an employee has cheap tokens
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