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I'd rather wait for independent seasoned mathematicians to verify such claims first before someone at said AI lab posting a claim about solving a proof online. Let this be a lesson to those who fell for such AI psychosis and to not believe everything you see on the internet as real.
Looks like this has already been formalized: https://github.com/deancureton/jacobian
Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture
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Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture
#82Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
The surprising thing is that the counterexample seems relatively "simple" in that it's low degree, with coefficients that aren't too large. Does anyone more familiar with this know why this _wasn't_ found earlier, when it seems like you could brute-force through some low-order polynomials?
Same awnser as much of the LLM Proofs - people cared about other things. There isn't a lot of money in academic math, and the ones that love it don't look for low value findings. Proofs like these are, funnily enough, usually the domain of hobbyists - but over the last few years, the "Monetize everything" mentality and struggling first world economy has pushed people away from interesting academic pursuits on their f…
Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture
#84Maybe not? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jacobian_conjectu...
I think the editor themselves misunderstood the conjecture. UPD: The edit got reverted and there's this on the talk page now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jacobian_conjecture#c-DaR... UPD2: There are edit wars happening now: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jacobian_conjectu... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jacobian_conjecture#c-Sea...
Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair to the sycophancy tendencies, this was an open conjecture that held for 85 years, and not for lack of trying. So, maybe a bit warranted here? :)
I told GPT5.6 I came up with this walking down the street. "Jesus Christ" was its response.
Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture
#86The great thing about these mathematical mopping up type operations is that no person will waste their time trying to prove it to be true anymore. If anything that’s a win. It would be great if an LLM could settle the Collatz conjecture next, god knows how many man-years have been burned on that by unsuspecting victims.
The reason this was "easy" is because the conjecture turned out to be false. If the collatz conjecture holds true (and most mathematicians seem to think it will), it will be much harder to prove than your average Erdos problem.
Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture
#87the conjecture held for 85 years and the counterexample was announced in a format that expires after seven days
The surprising thing is that the counterexample seems relatively "simple" in that it's low degree, with coefficients that aren't too large. Does anyone more familiar with this know why this _wasn't_ found earlier, when it seems like you could brute-force through some low-order polynomials?
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Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
The goal posts have moved. People generally stopped saying this stuff now. Even if you go to the ultimate anti-AI subreddit r/betteroffline, they've changed from "AI is useless" to "AI is good but the AI bubble will collapse soon" over the last 6 months.
People have definitely not stopped saying this stuff.
Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair to the sycophancy tendencies, this was an open conjecture that held for 85 years, and not for lack of trying. So, maybe a bit warranted here? :)
I told GPT5.6 I came up with this walking down the street. "Jesus Christ" was its response.
Re: Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture
#90Maybe not? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jacobian_conjectu...
I think the editor themselves misunderstood the conjecture. UPD: The edit got reverted and there's this on the talk page now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jacobian_conjecture#c-DaR... UPD2: There are edit wars happening now: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jacobian_conjectu... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jacobian_conjecture#c-Sea...